Reuters: Hundreds of thousands of Greeks protest FYROM name "Macedonia"

Lol alexander had to massacre an entire Greek city to force the rest of the Greeks to accept his rule because they considered the Macedonians foreigners.

The Greeks were conquered by Macedonians and then band wagonned to call Alexander one of theirs.
The Macedonians considered themselves Greeks.
 
Lol you guys were a bottomless pit at one point too until your sorry asses were bailed out for your genocidal/Nazi like tendencies that crumbled your nation.

Keep sending the money over and shaddap you Mook.

took em less than a month

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The Macedonians considered themselves Greeks.

Don’t bother reasoning with an idiot. What’s important is that academia has it right. Who cares what some semi illiterate redneck thinks?
 
took em less than a month

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Still lasted longer than France against the Axis and were already fully engaged in the Greco-Italian war (which the Greeks ‘won’). The Greeks fought honourably and with great courage during that conflict.
 
we practically own greece with all those hundreds of billions of our money that merkel threw into that bottomless greek pit

Oh wait you’re German, thanks for all the ships you had to give us recently. Thankfully for the Greeks the Germans have almost zero private commercial acumen when it comes to cyclical economics. Germans invested in brand new ships during the peak and almost their entire fleet went bankrupt. The new owners? Almost entirely all Greeks. Why buy new when the German will pay for it? Feels good sitting on the worlds biggest and most successful merchant fleet. But what to expect of a country that wiped out six million Jews for no reason? Germans are going to German. Greeks are going to Greek. I know what I’d rather be any day (and so does my wallet).
 
Don’t bother reasoning with an idiot. What’s important is that academia has it right. Who cares what some semi illiterate redneck thinks?
Personally it doesn't even make a difference to me. As long as Pella is on our side of the border im a happy camper.
 
we practically own greece with all those hundreds of billions of our money that merkel threw into that bottomless greek pit

This I don't think they understand the situation they are in.
Greeks are some of the most delusional people that you can find worrying about the bullshit past when they have no future. it will be interesting once they default on the debt.
 
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Greece has more battle tanks than Britain and France combined. It’s fleet is actually armed and does drills almost daily. On top of that it has a giant conscript army to support the professional army. We are the only NATO country other than the US to contribute the correct amount of our gdp to military spending. No other country other than Turkey in the region can fuck with us.

We do this because of Turkey, a country of 80 million that we need to defend ourselves against incase of another Cyprus.
knew id get a bite with that.
 
You can’t attribute modern concepts such as ethnicity/race/nations as today, but the ancient Macedonians were Greeks and considered themselves Greek. The first reference to that is Alexander leading his pan Hellenic invasion of Persia and referring to all participants as Greeks. Secondly they spoke a Greek dialect, and the slavs have a field day with this because the ancients referred to it as a different dialect. The truth is that all Greek city states has unique dialects, and this holds true today in greece (there is a small population that speaks a dialect similar to ancient lacemadonian). Classical academia considers them to be Greek.

Finally all ancient Greeks loves to accuse each other of not being Greek (barbarian - which literally means someone who doesn’t speak Greek). Sparta and Athens would always accuse each other of not being real Greeks, and when the Macedonians took over the same was applied to them. It was a way of accusing other Greeks of not being cultured or having a good pedigree. Athenian made fun of Macedonians for having adult homosexual sex and drinking too much wine.

Sorry but that s not true.

Athenians, Spartans, Beotians, etc. usually talked shit about one another but they all acknowledged eachother as true Greeks.

Now it is true that Macedonians had kind of a hybrid status of Greeks but slightly barbarian.

Oh and btw, for the Greeks the real "native" Greeks were a people called Pelasgos thar were assimilated into Greek society.

My sources : Herodote, Thucydides and Xenophon.
 
Oh wait you’re German, thanks for all the ships you had to give us recently. Thankfully for the Greeks the Germans have almost zero private commercial acumen when it comes to cyclical economics. Germans invested in brand new ships during the peak and almost their entire fleet went bankrupt. The new owners? Almost entirely all Greeks. Why buy new when the German will pay for it? Feels good sitting on the worlds biggest and most successful merchant fleet. But what to expect of a country that wiped out six million Jews for no reason? Germans are going to German. Greeks are going to Greek. I know what I’d rather be any day (and so does my wallet).

Am I misreading this, or are you bragging about Greeks being freeloaders?
 
Anyways I respect Greek identity.

Awesome history and culture.

Not surprised that so many itt don't understand much more than shopping at Wall-Mart.
 
I really want to know why Soros and why US policy was enabling that and the greater Albania push. They want Islam to spread in balkans?
Maybe it's not very related but I've seen (if I'm not wrong) in some article in Russian that tendencies or recent years is like that: something like that in 2013 or 2014 in Albanian capital there were 0 newborn babies (maybe male babies, I don't remember) with Albanian/traditional Albanian names (parents prefer to give names to their kids that sounds Western) and there were also mentioned that some Albanian Muslims are converting to Christianity (in Albania or in European countries when they immigrates there).
Plus, I'm not big specialist in Balkans but seems to me Albanians are not very hardcore Muslims, I think they elected in 2002 Orthodox Christian guy as president, if I'm not mistaken their current prime minister calls himself Agnostic (and he is from Christian family), current prime minister of Kosovo says stuff like this "Haradinaj does not consider himself as a Muslim, he declared "For generations my family members were Catholics. I do not know why I am Muslim. I've never been in a mosque, nor ask for anything else".", their previous president was a female (Jahjaga).
 
Greece is in an unfortunate situation but to say it's a shit hole is a bit of a stretch especially when you Germans love to buy property there and send your daughter's to its party destinations so they can get railed by the locals.

Show respect you heathen.
lol, literal muh dickery

Germs BTFO
 
Sorry but that s not true.

Athenians, Spartans, Beotians, etc. usually talked shit about one another but they all acknowledged eachother as true Greeks.

Now it is true that Macedonians had kind of a hybrid status of Greeks but slightly barbarian.

Oh and btw, for the Greeks the real "native" Greeks were a people called Pelasgos thar were assimilated into Greek society.

My sources : Herodote, Thucydides and Xenophon.

Your own sources have passages where Athebiabs do not consider Spartans to be barbarians because of their apparent Dorian heritage.

There are most instances of Greeks referring to other Greeks as barbarians than any foreigner in the classical period.
 
Am I misreading this, or are you bragging about Greeks being freeloaders?

We buying German ships at scrap prices is being a freeloader?

The German shipowners are bankrupt, they invested billions into an industry they will never understand and lost it all.

Now the German shipowners association is pushing for the EU (Germany) to increase the tax on Greek shipowners out of spite, despite the Germans having similar tax breaks at home. So we will move to Monaco, UK and Singapore, which will cost the EU as a whole since it loses its commercial fleet (Another example of Germans being unable to emotionally forecast, same as what happened in both world wars).
 
This I don't think they understand the situation they are in.
Greeks are some of the most delusional people that you can find worrying about the bullshit past when they have no future. it will be interesting once they default on the debt.

Are you still living in 2012? Greece is on the road to recovery and will exit the bailout program, likely with no need for credit.
 
We buying German ships at scrap prices is being a freeloader?

The German shipowners are bankrupt, they invested billions into an industry they will never understand and lost it all.

Now the German shipowners association is pushing for the EU (Germany) to increase the tax on Greek shipowners out of spite, despite the Germans having similar tax breaks at home. So we will move to Monaco, UK and Singapore, which will cost the EU as a whole since it loses its commercial fleet (Another example of Germans being unable to emotionally forecast, same as what happened in both world wars).

Good for you, I hope the greeks recover. Have been to Kavala / Thassos last year. Unfortunately most greeks I have Seen were dirt poor.
 
Good for you, I hope the greeks recover. Have been to Kavala / Thassos last year. Unfortunately most greeks I have Seen were dirt poor.

Depends where you go. The economic condition is somewhat misleading since Greece has a giant black market economy since no one pays tax. So many “unemployed” are employed and many Greeks have money/wealth hidden somewhere (whether it’s under the mattress or in Swiss banks). It also depends on your social class (eg are you from a shipowning/political dynasty or an Albanian immigrant?).

But of course the situation is far worse compared to what it used to be, but we’ve hit the bottom and hopefully things will only get better.
 
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