Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, even Rand Paul to some extent. 2012 Republican debates, you had Ron Paul and Johnson laying out libertarian ideas and being widely applauded. I was hoping we would get libertarianism to take over like nationalist-populism, but it just didn't happen. It'd be nice if both sides were more libertarian and less authoritarian.
The thing is, it's becoming more of a zero sum game. If everyone is playing identity politics, then white identity politics wins as long as they are a voting majority. They could very well be a voting majority for another 40-50 years. Demographic majority for another 25-30 years, but likely to be a voting majority for even longer. And even afterward, they'll be a plurality. If you splinter the minority vote enough especially. It's just a losing game for Democrats.
I think it's a really big deal because recent pieces like this: Medicare For All is a Socialist Dream and an American Nightmare are no longer persuasive to Republicans, and this also suggests a major shift in the bottom line of conservative opinion from just a year ago, according to Pew, who found that 60% of Republicans didn't want the government responsible for healthcare (roughly). While the questions asked were different, we can see that attitudes are changing.
I remember an episode of 30 Rock (pre Trump, obviously) when Tina Fey’s scumbag loser boyfriend was asked about his political views and said, “I’m socially conservative and fiscally liberal”... and that was like a punchline because obviously the “smart” or “cultured” thing was to be the opposite “socially liberal, fiscally conservative.”
Oddly enough, more Republican voters support Medicare for all than Democratic senators.
From a new Reuters poll:
By the slimmest of margins, but nonetheless a huge step forward as conservative voters are realizing how ridiculous it was to vote against their interests on such a fundamentally important issue.
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Yeah, it shows the disconnect between the people and corporations. Eventually, the Democrats will have to face the political reality. Agreed that Republicans will hold out longer. But eventually the Overton window will shift across the board. In the rest of the Western world, universal healthcare is just a given on both sides.
i love the fact you are such a polite troll you have double yellows, so you are reduced to posting "like", its adorable
the disconnect between dems and the voters is becoming more apparent, more progressive candidates winning without party support, and ignored by the media, its going to be an interesting next few years, maybe regular republicans will wake up and do the same, but i doubt it. i can see a split happeninmg in right wing parties somewhere down the line , and like the UK the mad as bats section will split away to form the "freedom" or "patriot" party.
Yeah, I recognize this trend happening. I'm not entirely excited, though. The idea of someone like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is exciting. However, I wish she was more informed and didn't do identity politics bullshit like comparing Ben Shapiro challenging her to a debate to catcalling. I don't know a great deal about all of the candidates, but I can't say I've found one who really excites me yet...
cortez is politically naive, but if someone with more nous comes forward, and gets solid advice from the likes of bernie and warren, establishment dems could lose control completely, wont happen for a few years yet though.
plenty of countries operate a two tier system, private healthcare aint going away in the US, but their market share should be severly scaled back.
