Remember when Machida ducked Shogun after their Really Close Fight?

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  1. Peteyandjia

    Peteyandjia Winter Orchid Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    Oh wait, that's right. Neither do I.

    Because Machida is a man of strong character.


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    After his controversial 5-round battle with Shogun Rua - a title defense, where Lyoto held onto the belt - did he demand that Shogun "work his way back up" first?

    Did he try to wrangle with Dana, using his position as Champion as leverage?

    Nope. He chose instead, to act like a Champion. He faced the challenge.

    Machida isn't a guy who just talks about things like Respect, and Honor.

    He actually means them.





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    PAID FOR BY MACHIDA FOR PRESIDENT



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    Peteyandjia Winter Orchid Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    "Jon, we need to talk about your hespect."
    "Lyoto... don't try and ruin my special night and make me guillotine you again."
     
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    infamouz ice Brown Belt

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    Machida also declined the jones fight twice thou.. not sure if that was a good example
     
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    ShreddinMMA Gold Belt

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    His face down bow is a very traditional display of respect. If I remember up, looking up when you bow suggests you don't trust the person you are bowing to.
     
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    whiteboycheckin** Banned Banned

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    Machida is afraid of no man.
     
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    GearSolidMetal I'm here to chew bubblegum and bang your mom. Platinum Member

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    Yup, as much of a bullshit decision as their first fight was. Machida fought him again.

    100% respect for Machida.
     
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    welcometohavoc Yellow Card

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    If your point was that Machida is more honorable than Jones, I don't think anyone is going to disagree with you
     
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    whiteboycheckin** Banned Banned

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    On short notice, and he wasn't a title holder.
     
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    Jones hate disguised as Machida praise..
     
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    Peteyandjia Winter Orchid Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    Only when they were short-notice offers. Machida fully admits he needs a full training camp to take a real shot at Jones. He has also said if he wins the belt and defends for awhile at MW then he'd like to take another crack at him.
     
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    SaintSoldier Brown Belt

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    Machida wasn't champ at the time.
     
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  12. meelad92

    meelad92 Elzhi

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    Machida >>>>
     
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    infamouz ice Brown Belt

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    You should always be ready to go when you're trying to fight ot the top. Vitor on the other hand took the short notice fight, and is taking a short notice fight with Chael. War Vitor!!
     
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    I don't think Jones would.
     
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    Peteyandjia Winter Orchid Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    The two situations seemed too similar not to point out. Both were undefeated LHW Champions. Both fought a title defense, where the other guy took it to him in a 5-round war. Both fights were successful title defenses, yet highly controversial, with many people thinking the 'loser' won. The glaring difference is in how both men reacted to this unresolved challenge to their belt.
     
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    k1ngjester The Comeback Platinum Member

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    I only have one small issue with the pic used here...

    That pic happened before Machida got guillotined...
     
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  17. infamouz ice

    infamouz ice Brown Belt

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    I understand that, but he ducked the championship fight when it was offered to him.. he wanted more time, kind of like jones wants to fight cormier first before gus, maybe he needs more time like Machida (PS not a jones fan at all)
     
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    What a man.
     
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  19. Augustus Caesar

    Augustus Caesar Put Up Your Dukes Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    In Jones' defense, the Machida vs. Shogun fight was considered a robbery whereas the Jones vs. Gus fight is considered really close but that the right guy won (this of course isn't a categorical opinion, but it is the most believed one).

    Those said, Jones shouldn't pick and choose his opponents, maybe in rare circumstances, but in this instance, he should just fight Gus.
     
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    Peteyandjia Winter Orchid Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    I agree with you for the most part, but Jones is a special case. It's like trying to figure out how to beat up an octopus, or one of those Avatars. I can't blame any challenger for wanting to be 100%.
     
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