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Ref letting your opponent to get back up?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by ArtOfDrowning, Dec 18, 2016.

  1. ArtOfDrowning Lecter Belt

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    I don't understand where in rules does it say that if you are standing above your opponent who is on the ground ref will step in, break the fight and let opponent get back up to his feet? Why is the fighter on the ground granted this gift?

    Instead fighter on the ground should try to find his way on the feet while standing opponent has the right to hit him on his way up, of course watching not to hit his opponent while grounded.

    I just don't undestand why ref do that. If they didn't step in, guys on the ground would have to scramble back to their feet and probably pay for it with some good punch or body/head kick.
     
  2. Degen Gambler Silver Belt

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    They only step in between when the standing fighter concedes and backs off. Its just to keep the action moving.
     
  3. ArtOfDrowning Lecter Belt

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    I know but there is a lot of times when fighters are waiting for their opponents to get back up to throw something to the body/head and guy on the bottom knows ref will stand him if he just lays there. If ref didn't step in guys on the ground would scramble faster knowning there is no stand up.
     
  4. SuperNerd Off Mode.

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    Lol that's a decent idea until you think about it.
     
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  6. Degen Gambler Silver Belt

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    The guys on the ground would just lay there and the action would stall. Its essentially a stalemate. The same way when guys are hugging eachother against the fence and the ref breaks it up to restart the action.
     
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    If fighters remain inactive too long the ref should bring out a taser and force them to move.
     
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    Bring back stomps and soccer kicks problem solved.
     
  9. Oachkazl Orange Belt

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    I agree with TS. It would be awesome to watch a 5 minutes stand-off between a standing fighter, that doesn't want to get in grappling range, and a lying fighter, that can't stand up safely.
     
  10. Ramon Antonio Black Belt

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    Dude it's like breaking up a clinch. He knows the fighter on the ground will stay on his back, and the standing fighter won't jump on him, so to prevent a boring stalemate he resets them.
     
  11. ArtOfDrowning Lecter Belt

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    Then standing fighter just kicks him from time to time for the whole round. And guy on the bottom is in losing position there. I don't think someone will just lay for whole round and do nothing
     
  12. ArtOfDrowning Lecter Belt

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    Why should he stand up safely? His problem that he is on the ground. He is in losing position and has to go back to his feet.
     
  13. Sgt Smith Bassed God

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    That was known as Overeem-Werdum.
     
  14. ArtOfDrowning Lecter Belt

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    Lets see how many fighters want to lose a round/fight by just laying on the ground because they are scared to stand up. Not many and everyone that does would get cut from UFC for doing that shit.
     
  15. ArtOfDrowning Lecter Belt

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    And to this day people call out Werdum for it. I don't think many fighters would just lay down. They would try to go back up.
     
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    Because he'd stay on the ground if he thought it was dangerous to get up.

    The ref only lets the fighter get back up once the standing fighter makes it clear he has no intention of engaging the grounded fighter.
     
  17. SuperNerd Off Mode.

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    How much room do they get? How do you enforce that? What about stalling from top position?

    I hate stand-ups but this feels like some sort of XFL scramble.
     
  18. tenniswhiz Steel Belt

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    No
    They step in when the feel like it
     
  19. ArtOfDrowning Lecter Belt

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    Stalling from the top can't happen if bottom fighter fights his way up to his feet. If he doesn't want someone to stand above him for 5 minutes then scramble.

    I'm not saying this is the biggest problem in MMA right now but it is irritating seeing a lot of guys just waiting for ref to step in.
     
  20. jeff7b9 Silver Belt

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    I'm with you TS.

    Makes no sense- pseudo-fighting bullshit. Refs feel the need to get involved when they should simply let the fight play out.
     

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