Realistically, 2003-2008 Fedor is a better fighter than Jones

[Redhawks100]

younger Fedor>Arlovski>Bigfoot

Prime Jones was taken away in an ambulance after Gus fight. Prime Fedor never even lost a round.

Fedor was busted open badly against CroCop and tossed on his head by Kevin Randleman.

Stop making Fedor out to be invincible.

Also, Jones didn't need the help of fighting in an organization that encourages the use of steroids.

 

[gabbo]

I had no idea that claude was rybka lol

 

[Redhawks100]

For the record, Jones hits a double leg on Fedor and proceeds to turn his paper skin into a bloody mess with elbows.

Jones wins via doctors stoppage or TKO

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

Fedor did the Fujita fishdance once, but that is all.

 

[Uncommon Valor]

How many wrestlers has Fedor outwrestled?

 

[citizenInsane]

Fedor was busted open badly against CroCop and tossed on his head by Kevin Randleman.

Stop making Fedor out to be invincible.

Also, Jones didn't need the help of fighting in an organization that encourages the use of steroids.

If everyone in Pride was encouraged to juice then how does that help Fedor? All the guys he would fight would be on the special sauce too.

 

[Redhawks100]

Fedor did the Fujita fishdance once, but that is all.

Also rocked by CroCop.

 

[Uncommon Valor]

I had no idea that claude was rybka lol

Interesting, so that's 3 or 4 accounts that he's had that's banned, lol.

 

[Redhawks100]

If everyone in Pride was encouraged to juice then how does that help Fedor? All the guys he would fight would be on the special sauce too.

Yeah, everyone used but Fedor!

:icon_lol:

You can't be that naive.

 

[MikeyLan]

Fedor was busted open badly against CroCop and tossed on his head by Kevin Randleman.

Stop making Fedor out to be invincible.

Also, Jones didn't need the help of fighting in an organization that encourages the use of steroids.

Superficial damage.
Didn't help Fedor that his opponents were on roids.

 

[Redhawks100]

Superficial damage.
Didn't help Fedor that his opponents were on roids.

LOL you were just discrediting Jones for 'superficial damage' :icon_lol:

Riiiiiight... everyone was juicing but not Fedor! No way! It's not like once Pride closed down, he became flabby and his skills started to diminish! (This is what you clowns claim, btw)

 

[Gotosleepho]

Fedor's awesome, but Jones has faced better competition in his UFC career than Fedor did during his PRIDE run. Lets not act like Fedor didn't have moments where he was in trouble during his reign. Fujita nearly knocked him out and Hunt had him in serious trouble. No fighter is perfect. You can find flaws in every single fighter's career. Jones has less of them so far in his career than Fedor. And I'm not disrespecting Fedor because the only guys I think that are even worthy of comparison to Fedor are Anderson, GSP, and Jones.

 

[Paynebringer]

With Fedor's butter tender skin and Jon's razor sharp hellbows speed & movement it would be a bloody disaster for old school stand & throw against new school stick, move, & slice.
Besides would never happen Jones prefers the Big Lights of the UFC not some circus foreign affair shown only by some Russian Sputnik satellite.

 

[savemgs]

being time proven for 10 year is harder that anything jones has ever done. Trust me, if staying unbeaten was so easy gsp wouldn't have lost to serra and anderson silva wouldn't have lost to takase and chonan.

Being consistent is the toughest thing to do, and jones isn't there yet.

this!

 

[HARDCORE CHINO]

fedor is the GOAT inside and outside of the ring/cage.

 

[Phenom116]

He literally fought Japanese versions of CM punk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuji_Nagata

This ^ There are so many Jones haters on here that it's almost pure comedy. Jones has CLEANED OUT one of the most stacked divisions in the UFC even caused fighters to change divisions just to have a legitimate shot at A title! After DC.....Who's left for him at LHW??? He's destroyed a who's who list of fighters and did it EASILY. And they were very relevant at the time!! Everyone was swinging from Shoguns nuts after he beat "the elusive and invincible" Machida... Jones made them both look BAD! rashad when he was #1...Vitor who was on a TEAR before and even afterwards...Bitched em both!!! Glover who was unbeaten at the time, Chael, the guy who gave Anderson all he could handle..Jones nearly lost a damn toe and didn't even break a sweat! Fedor was GREAT for his time!! But that time is long gone! Chuck was the man back before the sport exploded!! How on earth can we compare ANYONE to Jones, who technically has another 6-8 years left of being in his prime?!

 

[supra57]

I give Jones the edge due to beating slightly better opposition and in more convincing fashion.

kinda sad that jones weighs as much as fedor yet fights a weight class below against people smaller than him usually.

 

[Givvee]

Love the fact that people who never even fought over sandwich in their life, sits here and discredit's Fedor.....Could Fedor beat Jones? Yes he could, in his prime, he could knock him out, or submit him, he was very fast. Could Jones win? Yes he could, both of them are great.

 

[estranged]

Jones looked up to Fedor

 

[Magnum1978]

We're almost talking different sports here.

"Unified" fighting with elbows, cage grinding, 10-9 scores, and takedowns to steal a round, significant strikes, etc is very different to the full and more open (and more dangerous) fighting Fedor did in his prime back in PrideFC in the smaller/ 90degree angled ring.

It stands to reason Jones would dominate Fedor under Unified conditions in the wide open spaces of the cage... The guy has evolved his game to basically be a perfect specimen in the cage...

That being said, hypothetically if current Jones suddenly got transported back in time into the PrideFC cage with Pride rules/soccers/overall judging/etc say, Final Conflict in 2005 - IMO he would not beat Fedor, I doubt he'd beat Mirko then either. They were just perfectly adapted and honed to fighting to suit THOSE conditions (which were closer IMO and judging criteria aligned to a real 'fight').

The modern game has moved away from what it was in Pride.

Very very different. Very differnet era and pacing and strategy. The MMA game is a 'Unified' game now and Jones is basically the UFC (Unified) GOAT...

Fedor is the GOAT for MMA in a ring with full rules.

I reckon just leave it at that and move on.