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  1. Zebo

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    Every couple fight cards I realize the same thing, real time scoring of fights by round is the only answer. If Minakov and Nelson both know they are down on the judges card going into the 3rd round you get a much better round, and fight. No more surprise decisions, everyone knows who is up on the judges card, fighters can adjust there game plan accordingly.
     
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    I want soccer kicks and 10 minute first rounds.
     
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    TheAmericanGazelle Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Real-time scoring could also have the exact opposite impact in certain cases.

    For example, when the fighters themselves perceive two straight 50/50 rounds, but real time scoring reveals fighter A just so happened to get the close rounds....fighter A would be more motivated to coast than if the scoring was a mystery.
     
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    Would be an interesting thing to try out, but as said above, someone demonstrably up two rounds to none (or 3-1, 4-0) might be more certain to just do a Kalib Starnes for the last round.
     
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    They tried it in amateur boxing and it's a fail.

    If you want someone 2-0 up going into the 3rd knowing they're 2-0 up and dancing about and not engaging then it's great.

    Sure there are circumstances where it might improve the last round but there are just as many where it'd make them worse.
     
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    I’m with you TS. Every other non combat sport the competitors know if they’re winning or losing. Would you watch a basketball game with no scoreboard where both teams raised their hand in victory after the final buzzer, then some judges tally up all the points privately and award a winner. Would anyone watch a golf tournament with no leaderboard and every golfer raises their putter in victory after the final hole and then the judges add up the strokes and penalties privately and come out and announce a winner.

    I understand the coasting argument but coasting can also lead to ‘choking’ a lead. It would unquestionably lead to a more aggressive pursuit of victory than someone who thinks they’re ahead when they really aren’t. Right now we get both fighters coasting and one sore loser who thought they were ahead on the cards far too often imho.
     
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    for those saying the fighter up 2 rounds will just coast- sure, they may, but to paraphrase DC-

    you think i'm just gonna let you dance around and coast to victory?

    ie- the fighter behind on the scorecards will do everything in his power to engage and force a finish.
     
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    Corners should just tell their fighters that they lost the last round even if it isn't true.
     
  11. Zebo

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    Most fighters up 2 rounds to none already do that, even worse is when 2 fighters both think they are up and they both coast.
     
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    I think computerised scoring is the way forward. Use a heat map for cage dominance and judges that just click buttons for strikes, tds or top pressure.

    One judge watches hands. One watches kicks etc

    Then you have a computerised weighting for the type of style you want to promote.

    Bingo controversy free results.
     
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    everyone wants to change the rules... the rules are fine. some experimentation might be okay, but first thing first... judges need to be more educated. its plain and simple.

    if kongo knew he was up last night, he wouldve kept doing what he was doing. minakov would just give up. no bueno.
     
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    Yet how many times have you seen a corner tell their fighter they won the round when they didn’t
     
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    Yeah, costing will be a factor, but it already is in every other sport - and we deal with it.

    It's just a weird and unique for a sport to prevent contenders from knowing the score.

    Imagine if you had another sport like hockey, football, tennis or running - where they tried to actively keep everyone from knowing what the score was, to try to prevent coasting.
     
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    This thread is lame you made it better. Lemme see if I can help!

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    Ding ding ding ding...correct

    The real answer lies in a separate governing board for referees(a group of judges,peer to peer) that can review all decisions brought up for debait from one of the corners if felt wronged..

    Inwhich said fight is then rewatched , with live audio sans commentary and rejudged by a panel of 9 judges, that were not involved in the actual judging of the fight..

    If the concensus is different then original the fight can be overruled , if the fight is found to be the same as original said fighter or camp that complained about the decisions takes the loss and can not request another review request for 2 fights. ( this way camps don't just send useless requests)
     

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