Ray Longo Explains Weidman's Loss: ''he was banged up, He had a fractured foot''

[Roop Holstry]

I bet his foot was actually fractured and couldn't train properly. What's the problem with that? Rockhold almost instantaneously came out with an excuse despite winning the fight....if you wanna call injuries excuses. Man oh man sherdog is dense and full of endless hate. I'd like to see what you alpha males would say if you suffered your first loss. I bet you would be humble like a saint.

 

[Drunk Bum]

He lost the first round and was losing the third until the kick of doom. He didn't dominate shit until Weidman handed him the fight on a plate.

I still don't think he deserves the rematch, but let's not pretend the entire fight was one-sided.

Lol handed it to him on a plate? And here Weidman nuthuggers deny that Anderson having his hands down isn't the same thing.

 

[Fatal Catro]

Has Sherdog told him to change camps yet ?.

 

[submerged88]

I didn't see it like that. Round 1 was very close but I gave it to Chris. The second round Luke won the round clearly. Round 3 was close until Luke started eating those body kicks then it was looking bad for him. Then he gets the TD and dominated sherdog had it 10-8 across all three judges. Round was 4 complete domination. Only for a few seconds in round 3 did I really feel Chris was looking good. Even in round 1 which he won he looked to be using all his strength just to get anything done. It was obvious Luke was just being patient and taking his time. Maybe Chris wins the rematch but I doubt it. I think next fight Luke goes for the TD sooner and smashes Chris. The advantage Luke had on top was too big for Chris to ever Fix.

Thats pretty much how I saw the fight and I've rewatched it a couple of times. The 3rd round that Weidman fans claim he was dominating wasnt nearly as one sided as they think. Rockhold was moving back a lot at the beginning of the round and Weidman took him down but Rockhold got right back up. Rockhold then began stepping in and hitting Weidman with 1-2 combos a few times and then Rockhold hit him with a couple of body shots and then came the attempted wheel kick. It's not like Weidman was giving Rockhold the beating of his life and then accidentally fell on his back.

 

[Bacco]

Raynaldo Longinho Santos

 

[Macalpinerules]

Wonder what they're excuses will be after he loses the rematch.

Serra ate all of Weidman's post workout meals therefore Chris was not nutritionally fit going into the fight.

 

[pinkybrief]

fractured foot by still able to do spinning shits lol

 

[wlu29]

Chris is going to mess Luke up in the rematch

 

[MTL]

I would like to see the excuses you douche bags make for you're miserable lives

The excuses made for you are miserable lives? What's your excuse for the bad grammar?

 

[MTL]

Here you go
I've been a bit busy lately with work so I didn't spend more than a few minutes on it, so its not great. It will have to do until I get back from New Zealand (I'll spend a few hours on it this time)

Beautiful

 

[KhabibTheBeagle]

Lol handed it to him on a plate? And here Weidman nuthuggers deny that Anderson having his hands down isn't the same thing.

Anderson having his hands down was always a part of his strategy. Had it have worked like usual, he would have heralded as a genius, yet again. So, it is not the same thing.

Weidman was doing well until he decided to throw a very sloppy and poorly though-out kick which gave Rockhold the TD. That is handing the fight over on a plate.

 

[KhabibTheBeagle]

Thats pretty much how I saw the fight and I've rewatched it a couple of times. The 3rd round that Weidman fans claim he was dominating wasnt nearly as one sided as they think. Rockhold was moving back a lot at the beginning of the round and Weidman took him down but Rockhold got right back up. Rockhold then began stepping in and hitting Weidman with 1-2 combos a few times and then Rockhold hit him with a couple of body shots and then came the attempted wheel kick. It's not like Weidman was giving Rockhold the beating of his life and then accidentally fell on his back.

No-one is claiming that Weidman was "dominating" the third. It was close, but many had Weidman edging the third.

 

[mbach4307]

The 3rd round was pretty even until Rockhold took Weidman down. Go watch the 3rd round again and come back and tell us with a straight face that Weidman was blowing Rockhold out. Better yet, go watch the entire 3rd round and 4th round and tell us Weidman wasn't beaten into the ground. Weidman fans keep trying to restrict the entirety of the fight to about 30 seconds of the 3 round while insisting that we ignore the entirety of the fight and it's ending.

You can see how I feel about team weidman's b.s. but in fairness luke started to fade bad in the third and Chris was landing unanswered body kicks before he went for the spinning Shit. Not saying Chris was going to finish luke, but Chris win the first and was winning the third until he wasn't. Luke is that good though, because one mistake and that fight was over.

 

[Kelman]

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Several weeks before former UFC middleweight champion Chris Weidman suffered his first professional loss, he wasn't healthy enough to bowl.

According to his head coach Ray Longo, Weidman was in enough pain from a fractured foot that he didn't want to stand while they were at a bowling alley in November. In fact, Weidman literally took his turns bowling while seated on a couch situated near the lane.

"If you want to know the truth, he was banged up," Longo told ESPN.com. "He had a fractured foot in two places. We tried to work around it, but I think mentally it had an effect on him, because he wasn't able to push the cardio the right way."

If that sounds like an excuse for Weidman's fourth-round TKO loss to Luke Rockhold (15-2) at UFC 194 on Dec. 12, be assured it's not.

Weidman (12-1) has repeatedly stated in the aftermath of the loss that Rockhold deserved to beat him and take his title. He even declined to reveal the injury at first, only doing so earlier this month to a news station in his native Long Island, New York.

As it turned out, Rockhold wasn't healthy either. He revealed after the fight that he'd dealt with a staph infection during the later part of his camp.

The fact is, in mixed martial arts, it's rare for anyone to go into a fight injury free. And even a longtime coach like Longo is still searching for the right formula to determine when an athlete should pull out.

Weidman, for instance, has now seen every angle of it. He made the decision to withdraw from a title bout before. He has fought injured and won (despite a cracked rib against Alessio Sakara and a broken hand against Lyoto Machida) and now he has fought injured and lost.

Longo says it's the fighters who ultimately make the decision and usually they're going to chose to fight. After Weidman's loss, Longo wonders if he should have made that difficult decision for him and demanded he be pulled. There's never a right answer, it seems.

"He has fought with injuries before," Longo said. "I've seen this guy walk through fire before -- but as his coach, I feel bad. Maybe I should have been more vocal about this or that. You can't make excuses. His teammate, Aljamain Sterling, was banged up going into his fight on Dec. 11 and he won. So, you never know.

"If you decide to fight, what can you do during camp? Put a boot on him, so someone takes a picture and he's walking around in a boot? He didn't wear one. It's a nightmare. And these guys are my friends, so I'm in a weird spot sometimes. You basically have to tell them they're not doing it."

If there is a silver lining in Weidman's title loss, it's that he doesn't have to wait long for a shot at redemption. The UFC has already announced an immediate rematch between Weidman and Rockhold at UFC 199 in June.

Weidman has spoken about changes he intends to make in preparations. According to Longo, in addition to general improvement and drills, one change he plans to implement is the use of elbow pads in sparring. Weidman suffered the injury when he caught teammate Gian Villante's elbow with a kick.

"I don't want to be that guy making excuses, I hate it when guys do that," Weidman said. "I think everybody is excited about what I can bring to the table in a rematch. If people have watched my fights, they can probably see it wasn't me in there that night. Luke capitalized on it and deserves to be a champion. I'm deserving of a rematch. I can beat Luke Rockhold and people want to see that."

http://espn.go.com/blog/mma/post/_/id/22916/no-excuses-but-weidman-fought-rockhold-with-broken-foot

An injured foot does not explain Weidman's awful bottom game. He was absolutely clueless once taken down.

Longo is just doing PR here. Weidman got pounded into dust because he came up against a superior all-round fighter. I wonder what Longo will put forward to explain Beatdown Part Deux come 199.

Life is a lot tougher when you're not exclusively facing 40 year old strikers eh?

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Is it normal to throw spinning kicks with a fractured foot?

 

[Miiiiiiighty]

Is the broken foot responsible for throwing this stupid spinning back kick ?
Seriously I used to be a pretty big Weidman fan but it's starting to get hard to root for him after all those excuses..

He and his yes men team are paving the way for a " same cause same consequences " rematch at 199..

 

[loyalyolayal]

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

This is absolutely shit form.
It's not making your boy's loss look better, and comes off as an attempt to diminish the victory of your opponent.
Holy hell, I never expected Chris or anybody associated with him to spout this kind of crap but here we have it.

 

[podsox]

what good comes from making excuses?
you look like a complete bitch, you lose fans, and if you were in fact hurt you are stealing money from the fans that bought your fight.

 

[submerged88]

No-one is claiming that Weidman was "dominating" the third. It was close, but many had Weidman edging the third.

Oh Id say Weidman was edging Rockhold in the third round as well. Rockhold had a good second round and came out tentative to start the 3rd so I dont know what was going on with him.