Ray Longo Explains Weidman's Loss: ''he was banged up, He had a fractured foot''

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    Several weeks before former UFC middleweight champion Chris Weidman suffered his first professional loss, he wasn't healthy enough to bowl.

    According to his head coach Ray Longo, Weidman was in enough pain from a fractured foot that he didn't want to stand while they were at a bowling alley in November. In fact, Weidman literally took his turns bowling while seated on a couch situated near the lane.

    "If you want to know the truth, he was banged up," Longo told ESPN.com. "He had a fractured foot in two places. We tried to work around it, but I think mentally it had an effect on him, because he wasn't able to push the cardio the right way."

    If that sounds like an excuse for Weidman's fourth-round TKO loss to Luke Rockhold (15-2) at UFC 194 on Dec. 12, be assured it's not.

    Weidman (12-1) has repeatedly stated in the aftermath of the loss that Rockhold deserved to beat him and take his title. He even declined to reveal the injury at first, only doing so earlier this month to a news station in his native Long Island, New York.

    As it turned out, Rockhold wasn't healthy either. He revealed after the fight that he'd dealt with a staph infection during the later part of his camp.

    The fact is, in mixed martial arts, it's rare for anyone to go into a fight injury free. And even a longtime coach like Longo is still searching for the right formula to determine when an athlete should pull out.

    Weidman, for instance, has now seen every angle of it. He made the decision to withdraw from a title bout before. He has fought injured and won (despite a cracked rib against Alessio Sakara and a broken hand against Lyoto Machida) and now he has fought injured and lost.

    Longo says it's the fighters who ultimately make the decision and usually they're going to chose to fight. After Weidman's loss, Longo wonders if he should have made that difficult decision for him and demanded he be pulled. There's never a right answer, it seems.

    "He has fought with injuries before," Longo said. "I've seen this guy walk through fire before -- but as his coach, I feel bad. Maybe I should have been more vocal about this or that. You can't make excuses. His teammate, Aljamain Sterling, was banged up going into his fight on Dec. 11 and he won. So, you never know.

    "If you decide to fight, what can you do during camp? Put a boot on him, so someone takes a picture and he's walking around in a boot? He didn't wear one. It's a nightmare. And these guys are my friends, so I'm in a weird spot sometimes. You basically have to tell them they're not doing it."

    If there is a silver lining in Weidman's title loss, it's that he doesn't have to wait long for a shot at redemption. The UFC has already announced an immediate rematch between Weidman and Rockhold at UFC 199 in June.

    Weidman has spoken about changes he intends to make in preparations. According to Longo, in addition to general improvement and drills, one change he plans to implement is the use of elbow pads in sparring. Weidman suffered the injury when he caught teammate Gian Villante's elbow with a kick.

    "I don't want to be that guy making excuses, I hate it when guys do that," Weidman said. "I think everybody is excited about what I can bring to the table in a rematch. If people have watched my fights, they can probably see it wasn't me in there that night. Luke capitalized on it and deserves to be a champion. I'm deserving of a rematch. I can beat Luke Rockhold and people want to see that."

    http://espn.go.com/blog/mma/post/_/id/22916/no-excuses-but-weidman-fought-rockhold-with-broken-foot
     
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    These Brazilians never stop
     
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    So that's the excuse they're going with huh. Sucks for weidman. I used to think he was a stand up guy.
     
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    He lost because he wasn't fighting someone out of their prime.
     
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    "That wasn't me in there."
    "That was the worst camp I ever had."
    "I had a lot of personal problems."
    "I was only 10-20%."
    "I wasn't motivated to fight Luke."
    "He was a weak guy who was ready to break until I threw the kick."
    "I had a broken foot."

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    Excuse monster

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    How many excuses is that now for Weidman? Luke Rockhold had a leg infection and completely dominated the whole fight everywhere it went. No amount of excuses will undo this. Weidman is a fraud.
     
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    Weidman has already eclipsed Minotauro Nogueira and Hendricks' excuses put together after just 1 loss
     
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    You would think they would cool it with this excuse considering Rockhold also had a substantial problem with his foot (cellulitis/infection).
     
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    I counted 7 so far. There's definitely some more I missed. :D
     
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    Tired of excuses. Your fighter lost. Doesn't matter why, he lost. If he was injured, he shouldn't of fought. If he fought injured, that's on him. He still lost.

    Doesn't matter who the fighter is. Same thing about Sage, the kid lost. Yes, the dude was sick a hell but he still fought.
     
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    I don't root for fighters, but I'm going to make an exception and root for Luke 1st round ko. This is disrespectful towards a world champion. Luke was better than Chris at 194. That's it, that's all that matters.
     
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    Well dont fret Chris...this is the era of rematches...whether you deserve it or not!
     
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    Has Weidman become the new Tito Ortiz?

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    I would like to see the excuses you douche bags make for you're miserable lives
     
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    I keep seeing this. It's SHOULD'T HAVE, you illiterate savages.
     
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    He's definitely up there with Hendricks and that was only his 1st loss too.
     
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    Someone needs to photoshop a new book

    Skold, where you at?
     
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    Where is the line separating whats an excuse and what's a real reason? It seems like shertards think both are the same.
     
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