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So I signed a petition a little while ago about legalizing raw milk. Thought this might bring some new discussion to the board... here's their response:

The White House



Food Safety and Raw Milk

By Doug McKalip, Senior Policy Advisor for Rural Affairs in the White House Domestic Policy Council

Thank you for signing a petition about legalizing raw milk and for participating in the We the People platform on WhiteHouse.gov. We appreciate consumer concerns on food issues and understand the importance of letting consumers make their own food choices.

This Administration believes that food safety policy should be based on science. In this case, we support pasteurization to protect the safety of the milk supply because the health risks associated with raw milk are well documented.

Pasteurization of milk was adopted decades ago as a basic public health measure to kill dangerous bacteria and largely eliminate the risk of getting sick from one of the most important staples of the American diet. In 1987, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a regulation prohibiting the interstate sale of raw milk to reduce the number of illnesses and outbreaks associated with its consumption.

In recent years, some Americans have rejected pasteurization in favor of raw (or unpasteurized) milk, citing a range of taste, nutritional, and health benefits they believe are associated with raw milk consumption, as well as a general preference for unprocessed food.

As a science-based regulatory agency, the FDA looks to the scientific literature for information on benefits and risks associated with raw milk. While the nutritional and health benefits of raw milk consumption have not been scientifically substantiated, the health risks are clear. Since 1987, there have been 143 reported outbreaks of illness
 
Well, they have a good point. If you want raw milk, buy it from a dairyman.
 
I guess my big beef with this is that they oppose the legalization of something natural and yet add shit like fluoride and aspartame to other products. And to say they do this as a health and safety concern is laughable.
 
I guess my big beef with this is that they oppose the legalization of something natural and yet add shit like fluoride and aspartame to other products. And to say they do this as a health and safety concern is laughable.

"Shit like fluoride and aspartame" won't kill you in a matter of hours. E. coli will.
 
"Shit like fluoride and aspartame" won't kill you in a matter of hours. E. coli will.

I forgot that it's okay if something makes you sick or kills you over time. Go have another cigarette.
 
I guess my big beef with this is that they oppose the legalization of something natural and yet add shit like fluoride and aspartame to other products. And to say they do this as a health and safety concern is laughable.

....but....BUT...ITS NATURAL!

If you want raw milk, find a dariyman that will sell it to you or get your own cow(s). Oh, and have fun figuring out how to keep them producing milk, "naturally."
 
You can get raw milk cheeses at Whole Foods (33 - 100% more expensive), but I have never seen raw milk. There is a noticeable difference in taste between regular cheddar and gouda and their raw milk counterparts. Why is it ok to sell "raw" cheese but not liquid milk?
 
You can get raw milk cheeses at Whole Foods (33 - 100% more expensive), but I have never seen raw milk. There is a noticeable difference in taste between regular cheddar and gouda and their raw milk counterparts. Why is it ok to sell "raw" cheese but not liquid milk?

Legally, I believe its usually ok to sell the raw milk cheese where you can't sell raw milk only after its aged to a certain degree. This could be wrong but if memory serves that's the deal.

I don't notice much of a taste difference between raw and pasteurized dairy cheese, no more so than in the difference in brands of the same type, if you catch my drift. Where cheese goes I focus on looking for grass fed brands (ex: Kerrygold).

Where I do notice it is in the milk. Local, grass fed, raw milk is fucking incredible, you just need to do your homework and find out where it's coming from and how they operate/etc.
 
....but....BUT...ITS NATURAL!

If you want raw milk, find a dariyman that will sell it to you or get your own cow(s). Oh, and have fun figuring out how to keep them producing milk, "naturally."

free veal for life!
 
Local, grass fed, raw milk is fucking incredible, you just need to do your homework and find out where it's coming from and how they operate/etc.

Absolutely this.

Being grass-fed is the key in my opinion. I would NEVER advocate anyone drink raw milk from cows that aren't grazing on grass, and especially not from any feedlot cows.

Get in good with your local raw dairy farmer. Become friends with them. Ask questions. Where I'm from, small local raw dairies are more heavily regulated than their large-scale commercial counterparts simply because they don't pasteurize their products. They have to meet higher standards.

The biggest difference in taste, as far as I've noticed, is in the raw milk and butters. The cheeses taste the same as cheese made with pasteurized milk.
 
The cheeses taste the same as cheese made with pasteurized milk.

Nope. Not even true. Your dudes just suck at makin cheese then broseph.

Rawmilk cheese is to die for. Especially raw goatsmilk cheese...omfg.
 
Especially raw goatsmilk cheese...omfg.

I've never been able to get into it, and I've tried several times as there's an excellent goat-dairy producer very close that sells everywhere around me. Something earthy and musky in the undertone of the flavors always turns me off, whether the cheese or the milk.
 
I've never been able to get into it, and I've tried several times as there's an excellent goat-dairy producer very close that sells everywhere around me. Something earthy and musky in the undertone of the flavors always turns me off, whether the cheese or the milk.

Personally I can't stand goats milk or meat, but the cheese is amazing.
 
"Shit like fluoride and aspartame" won't kill you in a matter of hours. E. coli will.

Most raw milk dairies are grassfed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe E. coli only develops in cows eating a grain based diet. True or no? The reason commercial milk needs to be pasteurized is because of the extremely close quarters in massive dairies resulting in filthy conditions.
 
Additionally, I believe most of the documented illnesses related to raw milk have been tied to inexperienced people trying to make raw cheese. You are much more likely to get sick eating bagged lettuce/spinach, peanut butter, (insert all of the other food related outbreaks over the last 10 years).
 
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