Rate Jones' Strength of Opposition vs. Silva's

Rate Jon Jones' Strength of Opposition vs. Anderson Silva's

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Rate Jon Jones' Strength of Opposition vs. Anderson Silva's
  1. Jones: Very strong
  2. Jones: Strong
  3. Jones: Fair
  4. Jones: Weak
  5. Jones: Very weak
  6. Silva: Very strong
  7. Silva: Strong
  8. Silva: Fair
  9. Silva: Weak
  10. Silva: Very weak
 
Well Jones fought the GOAT Hammill so when Anderson fights someone of that calibre maybe he'll be close. Even a loss to Hammill is considered an achievement if you don't get KO'd by him .
 
Jones got a few MWs in there and Silva got a few duds in there too. GSP, Fedor and Aldo have the best resumes
 
Jones has DC, which is leagues better than anyone on Silva's resume unfortunately. Silva definitely could have beaten better opponents, but they either weren't available, didn't want to fight him or vice versa. The only one that even comes remotely close is Dan Henderson, who isn't even really a legend through skill, just persistence. Jones has this comfortably, but its not too big of a lead, because of the fact that Silva fought at LHW, and mostly fighters his age or younger.
 
That poll is confusing as hell and designed to make Silva look good.

Jones > Silva in competition.
Both roiders can be judge evenly.
 
Both had strong resumes however I will always lean towards a heavier weight class. It's more dangerous in the LHW and HW when it just takes one punch often to knock someone out and there is less room for error the heavier your opponents are. Jones fought a number of fighters with strong KO wins and Submission victories on their resumes.
 
Jones puts Anderson to shame. Both are goats in their respective divisions though
 
ReadWrite said:
Rate Jon Jones' Strength of Opposition vs. Anderson Silva's
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I only selected their first title win and subsequent title defenses, and in the cases of rematches I picked the first fight.

Anderson Silva
Franklin, 32, 21-1 (1) Record (also fought at Light Heavyweight)
Nate Marquardt, 27, 25-6-2 Record (also fought at Welterweight)
Henderson, 37, 22-6 Record (also fought Heavyweight, Light Heavyweight)
Cote, 28, 13-4 Record (also fought Welterweight)
Leites, 27, 14-1 Record
Maia, 32, 12-1 Record (also fought Welterweight)
Sonnen, 33, 26-10-1 Record (also fought Light Heavyweight)
Belfort, 33, 19-8 Record (also fought Heavyweight, Light Heavyweight)
Okami, 30, 26-5 Record (also fought Light Heavyweight, Welterweight)

31 avg age
178-42-3 (1) = 79.5% win rate
44.4% of fighters competed in a smaller weight class.

Jon Jones
Rua, 29, 19-4 Record
Jackson, 33, 32-8 Record
Machida, 33, 17-2 Record (also fought Middleweight)
Evans, 32, 17-1-1 Record (also fought Middleweight)
Belfort, 35, 21-9 Record (also fought Heavyweight, Middleweight)
Sonnen, 36, 28-12-1 Record (also fought Middleweight)
Gustafsson, 26, 15-1 Record
Teixeira, 34, 22-2 Record
Cormier, 35, 15-0 Record (also fought Heavyweight)

32.6 avg age
186-39-2 = 81.9% win rate
44.4% of fighters competed in a smaller weight class.

TLDR:
-On average, Silva's opponents were 1.6 years younger than Jones' opponents.
-Jones' opponents had a 2.4% higher win rate than Silva's opponents.
-44.4% of both Silva and Jones' opponents competed in a smaller weight class.

I voted both of them as having "Fair" opposition.
 
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JayJayMMA said:
It's more dangerous in the LHW and HW when it just takes one punch often to knock someone out and there is less room for error the heavier your opponents are.
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As of 2018, that's false:

acannxr said:
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2018 Knockout Rates (in descending order)
1. 44.7% (LHW)
2. 44.2% (MW)
3. 38.8% (WW)
4. 38.2% (HW)

The fact that Middleweight had five more fights than Light Heavyweight this past year makes that 0.5% difference in knockout rate irrelevant (as less fights can result in higher skewed percentages).
 
I'm not a fan of either Jones or Silva but I voted Very Strong for Jones and Fair for Silva. Jones never had an easy opponent (although they are probably coming soon). Silva had a relatively weak division, as many people have noted here over the years.

If you were ever sitting on the fence on who was the greater fighter between these two, this poll might get you off the fence; unless you believe one was taking stronger PEDs than the other.

Side note: Current GOAT (poll results) GSP had greater opponent strength than Jones:
  1. GSP: Very strong
    106 vote(s)
    58.2%

  2. GSP: Strong
    47 vote(s)
    25.8%
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/rate-gsps-strength-of-opposition-vs-woodleys.3824103/page-4
 
One of Jones' worst wins is Sonnen, and Sonnen is one of Silva's best wins. I think that should tell enough...
 
ReadWrite said:
Jones never had an easy opponent
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  • Vitor at 185 for the previous half a decade, no W over a relevant 205er for 8+ years
  • Chael at 185 for the previous 7+ years, no W over a relevant 205er for 10 years, was wrecked inside 2 rounds in his previous fight
  • Rua off a 3rd knee surgery (remember how shithouse he was the last time he came from knee surgery, against 493yo Coleman)
  • Machida on a 1-2 skid with zero relevant wins in the previous 2 years (only recent W was over 752yo Randy).
Nobody is "easy", but let's be real here ... Jon's resume has its share of asterisks just like Anderson's does.
 
Jones decisively beat the absolute best LHWs from two eras. Silva also faced the best guys during his title reign, but middleweight was overall quite weak during a lot of it.

Silva's top wins during his title reign (plus the one that got him the title):
1. Dan Henderson
2. Vitor Belfort
3. Chael Sonnen
4. Rich Franklin
5. Rich Franklin
6. Yushin Okami

Okami is stretching it, he was never considered to be absolutely elite, and Rich Franklin and Chael Sonnen definitely wouldn't be in today's MMA (their skills wouldn't be enough).

Jones top wins:
1. DC
2. DC
3. Gus
4. Gus
5. Hashad
6. Shogun
7. Machida
8. Rampage
9. Glover Teixeira
10. Vitor Belfort

And contrary to what delusional ignorant noobs say, everyone Jones beat there was in their fighting prime when they faced Jones (unless something happened to Shogun's knees between the Machida rematch and Jones fight).

Jones has bar none the best resume BY FAR unless you disqualify him for being a cheater.

danny23 said:
One of Jones' worst wins is Sonnen, and Sonnen is one of Silva's best wins. I think that should tell enough...
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Can't wait to see how delusional Silva nuthuggers respond to this truthful statement. Vitor is also Anderson's 2nd best win, and not even close to that for Jones.
 
Huligani said:
And contrary to what delusional ignorant noobs say, everyone Jones beat there was in their fighting prime when they faced Jones (unless something happened to Shogun's knees between the Machida rematch and Jones fight).
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Anyone who's not a "delusional ignorant noob" knows Shogun's knee was wrecked in the Machida rematch, leading to his 3rd knee surgery. Anyone who's not a "delusional ignorant noob" also knows Shogun looked like crap the previous time he came back from knee surgery, when he struggled to get by 659yo Coleman.

Anyone who's not a "delusional ignorant noob" also knows Vitor had fought nothing but 185ers for the previous HALF A DECADE and had no relevant 205 wins for the previous 8+ years when he was fed to Bones.

Anyone who's not a "delusional ignorant noob" also knows Chael had fought nothing but 185ers for the previous 7+ years and had no relevant wins at LHW for almost a decade when he was fed to Bones off a R2 loss at 185.

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Fedor fought the most dangerous opponents.
HW who could ruin your night with a single punch.
 
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