Yes. He's 0-3 against Edgar. 0-1 against Diaz and rory. He should be behind them then right??
Nice logic tho
When bj compiles a 44-4 record, instead of a 16-11 record, then you can start saying his name in the same sentence as hughes
He defeats Prime Hughes the 2nd best WW ever, takes GSP (top 3-4 GOAT candidate) to split decision, pulls a draw with #1 ranked Fitch back when Fitch didn't suck yet, has a close fight with Machida while giving up 50lbs and goes on an absolute LW rampage in the UFC and you think top 25 is unreasonable?
He's one of two guys to have UFC gold in multiple weight classes. If it's so f'ing easy how come Edgar can't do it?
That is all well and good but Hughes is a former 2x WW Champion with 7 titles defenses. He beat both BJ and GSP. Hughes remains one of the most dominant champions this sport has seen. BJ? Not so much.
LOL..Well considering I think Jon is already the GOAT. I'd swap him out with anyone on your list.
Lol'd
No Silva/Jones anywhere, yet you included names like Igor, Cain, Shogun, Machida, Wand, Saku, etc. All time greats? Most definitely. On the same level as Silva or Jones? Fuck no.
Anyone who neglects Fedor/Silva/GSP/Jones when making a GOAT list is simply not correct.
He defeats Prime Hughes the 2nd best WW ever, takes GSP (top 3-4 GOAT candidate) to split decision, pulls a draw with #1 ranked Fitch back when Fitch didn't suck yet, has a close fight with Machida while giving up 50lbs and goes on an absolute LW rampage in the UFC and you think top 25 is unreasonable?
He's one of two guys to have UFC gold in multiple weight classes. If it's so f'ing easy how come Edgar can't do it?
People need to quit being so blind and putting bj in their top 10, it's pathetic. He not even top 25.
Please explain to me how bj (16-11) is ahead of jones (20-1).
Or hendo for that matter. ....or even Edgar?
Good list except for Henderson great guy won a few big fights but was never dominate.
Fedor Emelianenko
Anderson Silva
Jon Jones
Georges St Pierre
Wanderlei Silva
Jos
He was a champion in two different weight classes, in the top organization at the time.
Fifteen years ago, he beat Gilbert Yvel, Big Nog, and Babalu on the same night.
Ten years ago, he knocked out Ryo Chonan and Akihiro Gono on the same night.
He also has wins over Fedor, Vitor, Wanderlei, Rich Franklin, and Shogun -- three top ten all-time greats; and Rich, who is an all-time top twenty (or so) great.
His first professional fight was in 1997. It was less than a year ago since he defeated Shogun for a second time. That's a hell of a resume over a very long career.
Nothing about Jon Jones skillset impresses me other than his ground game which is out of this world.
BJ Penn imo is the MOST TALENTED MMA fighter period.
Put it this way.
GSP: Hardest working fighter period.
Anderson Silva: Smartest fighter period.
Fedor: Strongest will to win.
BJ Penn: Most talented fighter period.
He gets a ton of points for having been a champion in two separate weight classes in a marquee organization. He also has wins over all-time greats (i.e., Hughes and Gomi). That's an impressive resume.
Plus: His record would have looked a lot better if he had spent his prime years in the weight class he belonged in, instead of ballooning up to fight Machida, and then sticking around at welterweight to fight GSP again, MacDonald, Fitch, and Hughes (again). His 16-10 record could have easily been a 21-5 record.