Rank these achievements from most impressive to least
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He went 1-1 with Misaki. The reason the belt was not on the line vs Misaki the second time was because it was a tournament fight.
Beating Vitor to earn a shot, KO'ing Wand, attempting to defend/unify the 205 belt vs Rampage and attempting to defend/unify vs Anderson is a hell of a lot more impressive than Conor beating Nate at 170 to earn a title fight at 155 and then retiring with the belt. At least Hendo attempted to defend against dangerous and elite fighters.
Plus, Hendo has been winning HW tournaments, MW tournaments, BrazilIan vale tudo tournaments since the 90's. Hendo was also arguably the top 185'er in the world for several years. He basically proved it when he KTFO the UFC champ Bustamante in 2003.
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TLDR: Top: Conor. Bottom: Fedor.
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Nobody, and i mean nobody, got more undeserved title shots then Randy
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True, but he earned his first two HW title fights. Beat Vitor in 1997. Left for Japan and came back and beat Rizzo in 2001 in the FOTY. Defended against a roided Barnett and lost. Fought Ricco for the belt.
He was given a gift Interim title shot at 205 vs Chuck but he smashed Chuck and then smashed Tito and Vitor right after. Proved he was a real champ.
Yeah, he got another gift title shot vs Brock coming off the KO's to Chuck, but he beat Sylvia and had the balls to defend against Brock fucking Lesnar after that.
So yes, he had two gift shots but he also earned two, and always came back to defend in all 4 of his title reigns.
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I know he was a UFC champ, an Olympic gold medalist, was Sherdog P4P #1 and won a PRIDE GP, what's the fifth one?
Actually Bisping holds like 5 of those achievements...
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Who dat?top this...
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It is all relative to who you beat. For example, beating Daniel Cormier in a TUF audition is way more impressive than Nicco Montano beating Roxi for the UFC belt, or becoming a champ at lightweight is infinitely more impressive than defending ten times at flyweight.
The olympic medal holds more prestige, but winning the UFC interim belt at LW is obviously way more impressive than winning a gold in women's wrestling.
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In fairness, Penn's first 3 fights at 170 involved two title fights where he was the challenger and a #1 contender fight. He went 1-2 and if it hadn't been for an injury wouldn't have received the gift title shot himself.
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I think the recent history (of interim belts/no defenses/freakshow superfights) has severely devalued the meaning/worth of “UFC Champion”. This makes me value something like “most wins in UFC” much higher than the rest.
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See where you're coming from. Agree to a point but ...defending in one of those divisons more than a couple of times then moving up to fight for the title also depends on that weight class Champion too.
If a fighter has defended, cleaned out his weight class , then and only then should the Champion move up. Otherwise it could be avoidance of a very tough deserving contender ( say someone like Khabib). After cleaning out the divison and moving up it also depends on who that champ is. Take Conor moving to LW, Eddie had never defended the belt himself, again I say the win isn't as impressive as if he'd won against a multiple time defending champion.
Stipe vs Cormier is a deserving fight for someone to become a two division champ. Both have basically cleared their divisons at this point ( forget Jones he can't fight right now of his own doing). If DC did pull off a win ,I'd say that is the most deserving and highest ranked two divison Champion in UFC history.
Compare that to Conor ( who I am a fan of ,but getting pissed he won't fight). He Never DEFENDED his FW belt then moved up and faced another Champ who hadn't defended . This to me is the weekend two divison Champion.
As they say "you're not a real Champion till you defend" . I give credence to that, look how many Champions there have been over the years , then look how many have defended. There's quite a difference in those numbers.
Even if DC didn't defend ( if he beat Stipe). I'd still say that he's one hell of a deserving two divison Champion.
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You feel like I do. Will respect the hell out of DC if he beats Stipe. And DC has beaten some of the best already at 265. And he is so much smaller. Black Fedor was my favorite nickname for him.
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Olympic Gold Medal.... Then Pride Grand Prix... UFC Champion USADA Era...
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Penn got the title shot at WW in his WW debut, he was not even a LW champion.
Randy got the title shot at LHW after 2 loses.
Hendo was champion in Strikeforce and Pride, not the UFC.
So in terms of this list, Conor is above them.
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Good point, but if you got them in a argument. Only one of them could say they were an undisputed world champion
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Randy also beat Vitor for the UFC HW title in 1997. Went to Japan for bigger fights and the RINGS tournament. Came back to beat Pedro Rizzo for the UFC title in 2001. Defended the belt against Barnett and Ricco.
Yes. He did get a gift title shot versus Chuck, but beat his ass and defended against Tito and Vitor and Chuck afterwards. Sure, he got another gift versus Tim but defended against Brock. Never retired with the belt like Conor did. So he actually earned his first two title reigns. Last two were gifts but he defended many times. Can't even compare Randy and Conor.
Hendo has won titles and tournaments all over the world in several different weight classss. His wins and accomplishments absolutely dwarf Conor's achievements.
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I really like your list. Pretty fucking solid. but i do have to say in any regard, being a 2 weightclass champion is very impressive. if it weren't more fighters would have done it. Only Conor, BJ, randy and george have done it.
