Rampage vs Anderson (in primes) at LHW

[Gamer007]

It annoys me that people bring up the weidman fights to judge andersons skill. He was 5-8 years past his prime at that point, there's no helping some of you.

 

[hohner]

It would probably be a close decision.

 

[gono btw]

"The only 2"..... ROFL

He'd have been wrecked by numerous guys above 185 which is why he cherrypicked 2 pillowfisted strikers with no wrestling and James Can Irvin at 205.

Spoiler

 

[bjdiaz]

Silva beats 205 LB Page with leg kicks like Forrest did. But PRIDE rampage probably slams Silva and gnps his face into the mat.

 

[snaportap21]

If 2007 Rampage fought 2009 Anderson Silva at 205 lbs...

The Rampage that Koed Chuck for the title and decisioned Hendo was in the best shape of his entire career. His boxing was crisp, cardio on point, etc....But when he fought Forrest he seemed to be out of shape for sure... At that same time Anderson was on a warpath.. On his way to cleaning out the division and taking out some LHW's on the way... In 2008 he starched LHW James Irvin and in 2009 he matrixed Forrest Griffin.

So lets go prime vs prime here.. or at least what i'm going to call their "prime moments" in the UFC

so again...
2007 Rampage vs 2009 Anderson Silva at LHW.... Who wins?

The straight punches would give Rampage some problems. Silva's clinch would be a factor if Rampage got in close to throw those hooks.

 

[grimballer]

I think you need to add Lyoto to that list... Double Crane Kick Double KO !!

Anderson > lyoto

Look at common opponents

Bonnar: both beat him in 1st round (Anderson was goofing around)

Franklin: Anderson ko prime ufc champ Franklin in 1st round, lyoto tko him in 2nd

Hendo: Anderson finished prime 2 division champ hendo in 2 rounds, lyoto got sd vs old man hendo

Weidman: Anderson was goofing around n weidman landed a fluke ko, lyoto lost a ud

Belfort: Anderson ko prime trt vitor in 1st round, lyoto ko depleted past his prime trtless vitor in 2nd round

Chael: Anderson beat juiced Chael twice, lyoto beat old man Chael

Also Anderson was mw champ for almost 7 years n had 10 title defences

Lyoto was lhw champ less than a year n defended his title only once.

When lyoto moved to mw division n had a 5-4 record in ufc before going to bellator

 

[chinarice]

Cherrypicking n ducking is something gsp does

lhw were Turing fight with anderson down

Before Irvin fight 4 guys (top guys) turn down the fight with Anderson.

Griffin was one fight removed from being the champ (fight he was winning)

N For Bonnar fight he stepped in last second to save a card in Brazil.

Convenient how no mention of how weak guys like Forrest and Bonnar are but you won't skip a beat to call out bisping who is vastly superior to both of those dummies as a weak opponent for Georges.

The typical Silva fanboy double standards. Silva didn't duck Jones...... But GSP ducked Silva. Lol too funny.

 

[djacobox372]

Anderson would submit rampage off his back.

 

[Dirge]

Silva has never been able to defend a decent takedown and Rampage had great takedowns before his knees and back were shot.

Rampage on top of you is not a good thing. He would have had a significant size and strength advantage and his cardio in his prime was pretty solid.

Rampage also had a crazy good chin and could easily eat a few shots in order to get in close to grapple. Not to mention being able to shut off anyone's lights with a clean punch.

 

[Dirge]

Anderson would submit rampage off his back.

That is probably the least likely outcome. Silva has exactly 3 sub wins his entire career. Rampage has always had pretty good sub defence. He only lost via sub to Jon Jones and Sakuraba in his prime.

 

[Taric]

Rampage was tailor made to defeat Anderson imo. No shame in it. Rampage was a beast back in the day.

 

[Lawrence]

Anderson > lyoto

Look at common opponents

Bonnar: both beat him in 1st round (Anderson was goofing around)

Franklin: Anderson ko prime ufc champ Franklin in 1st round, lyoto tko him in 2nd

Hendo: Anderson finished prime 2 division champ hendo in 2 rounds, lyoto got sd vs old man hendo

Weidman: Anderson was goofing around n weidman landed a fluke ko, lyoto lost a ud

Belfort: Anderson ko prime trt vitor in 1st round, lyoto ko depleted past his prime trtless vitor in 2nd round

Chael: Anderson beat juiced Chael twice, lyoto beat old man Chael

Also Anderson was mw champ for almost 7 years n had 10 title defences

Lyoto was lhw champ less than a year n defended his title only once.

When lyoto moved to mw division n had a 5-4 record in ufc before going to bellator

Thanks for the thoughtful and correct response... Anderson greater!

Still I think Lyoto would have been a great challenge and a dangerous opponent. If not for their friendship a fight for the ages.

 

[Drain Bamage]

Surprised to me to see so many people think Prime Rampage beasts Prime Anderson

 

[grimballer]

Thanks for the thoughtful and correct response... Anderson greater!

Still I think Lyoto would have been a great challenge and a dangerous opponent. If not for their friendship a fight for the ages.

Still think Silva was superiour striker n that would’ve been a difference maker

 

[OmegaRugal]

How did they do against common opponents?

Silva destroyed Forrest and Hendo.
Rampage lost to Forrest and had a hard fought win vs Hendo.

These facts combined with the style match up makes me think Andy wins with incredible ease.

We are talking about the best striker in MMA history vs mainly a striker who has lost vs multiple strikers.

Rampage has nothing for Silva other than durability.

 

[VitorReem]

I'd prefer Rampage before 2007 when he used his stand up as well as his wrestling, Rampage had some pretty devastating GnP in 03, 04
I feel that would've made him more of a threat against Anderson Silva.

2nd this. That rampage would be a real problem.

 

[OmegaRugal]

Still think Silva was superiour striker n that would’ve been a difference maker

Superior striker and better chin.

Machidas one advantage va Silva is his TDD which would not come into play in this match up.

Machida would be flat KOd against Silva just like he was against Shogun.

 

[grimballer]

Convenient how no mention of how weak guys like Forrest and Bonnar are but you won't skip a beat to call out bisping who is vastly superior to both of those dummies as a weak opponent for Georges.

The typical Silva fanboy double standards. Silva didn't duck Jones...... But GSP ducked Silva. Lol too funny.

Compared to typical gsp fanboy double talk...

Forrest was the champ in the most competitive division in ufc at that time having wins over shogun n rampage. He was also winning the fight in his title defence vs Evans before making a mistake.

Silva destroyed that Forrest n made him look like an amateur. After Silva he finished his career winning 3 outta 4 fights.

On the other hand bisping was a career gatekeeper n the only reason he got title shot in 1st place is everybody else was injured.

The guy who he beat for the title already destroyed him with ease n clearly didn’t take him seriously (remember gsp got finished by serra too).

After that he ducked all top contenders n choose 45 year old hendo as his 1st title defence (fight he arguably lost).

After losing the title to gsp (where he had his moments) he got destroyed by a blown up ww in 1st round.

So Forrest that Silva destroyed > bisping gsp beat n it’s not even close.

As for Silva “ducking” jones...

Did jones came around same time as Silva n clean the division like Silva did?

Was Silva vs jones the superfight everybody wanted to see?

Did jones ever called out Silva?

So you can deflect all you want, but the fact remains:

Gsp was ducking Silva like a plague.

Him going after mw belt when bisping was champ is more proof of that.

 

[grimballer]

Surprised to me to see so many people think Prime Rampage beasts Prime Anderson

Mostly delusional gsp nuthuggers trying desperately to discredit Silva so it makes gsp look better

 

[grimballer]

Superior striker and better chin.

Machidas one advantage va Silva is his TDD which would not come into play in this match up.

Machida would be flat KOd against Silva just like he was against Shogun.

Silva has/had better d off his back.

He’s able to survive n receive minimal damage on his back.

Machida looks defenceless once in his back.

If Silva drops him, he’ll most likely finish him in the ground