Questions about what to take when

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  1. Payne

    Payne Green Belt

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    I wake up, do my thing, work out (hour cardio/hour weights)

    i take a multi vitamin, omega 3, calcium, and B complex.

    as for working out. when should i take creatine, and when do i take protein?

    i usually have 3 protein shakes a day. one is usually 30 min after working out, while working out i drink water, and i was thinking of taking my creatine right after i get out of the change room in the gym, and drink the protein when i get home

    is anything wrong with what i'm doing or taking?

    i also cannot seem to lose my tank abbott belly, i eat super clean, all raw foods. my diet is pretty top notch. i've been all into health for like 3 years now. coming down from like 320lbs. im down to 240lbs. im build pretty solid chest, arms and legs. but all my weight is in my beer belly (i dont drink tho) so i was thinking i should go the ECA way. whats a good combination of that to take... assuming i buy all 3 pills seperately. i dont wanna take the wrong kinda dose.

    for the record, i did go to a doctor, my thyroid is fine, and i'm in perfect health he said. so i've tried that...

    i've just tried everything, been getting frustraited, and working hard. would love advice on both things. thanks guys
     
  2. Payne

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    anyone?
     
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    If there were a simple answer for this complex problem I'm sure someone would have posted it.

    Whey (fast-release) is best taken after working out and a lot of guys take their creatine (slow-release) before bed.

    As far as losing your belly... What's your cardio like? Exercises/duration/intensity/etc. About how much water do you drink per day?
     
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    Creatine is neither slow or fast "release", and I've never heard the recommendation to take it before bed.

    Take it PWO, based on 1) coupling with high GI carbs, if you do that, 2) increased insulin sensitivity, and 3) coupling with replacing depleted sodium, which has the most efficacy out of the 3 reasons.

    There's been some recommendations to take it preWO to ensure topped-up "stores", but that's probably splitting hairs, and more of a personal preference.
     
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    I guess I'll wear the dunce cap for a while. I was talking about casein. :redface:
     
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    LMAO no worries. You had me worried there for a bit.
     
  7. Payne

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    so i should take creatine and protein right after my work outs?
     
  8. Payne

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    i pretty much do around an hour a day of cardio. i do it pretty intense i'd say, im still a big dude, so im doing the best i can, i use to now be able to walk up stairs with out getting tired. but i for sure can last an hour now on an eliptical.

    water i try to drink 2L a day at least. sometimes i drink more cuz im just always drinking, so thats not really a problem... unless too much water can be bad. i'd say between 2L and 3L a day.
     
  9. noobloser

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    Sounds like you're doing good so far. I know that we have pretty much the same frame/body type, so I'll tell you what worked for me:

    I would definitely recommend you up your water intake. While 3L seems like a lot, it's really not. Especially for a guy your size. I've had 5L of water so far today and it's only 1pm here. I usually get between 1.5-2 gallons a day. Water is essential for burning fat.

    The best cardio exercise I was doing to lower my body fat was swimming. I have it easy because I have a pool, but nothing beats an hour of swimming. I would swim 4-5 times a week on top of my other training. I went down from 223 to 167.

    If you can't swim, I would still suggest varying your cardio. Jogging? HIIT, if you feel you are capable. Stairmasters? Cycling is also great. Treadmill? Treadmill on an incline? Sounds like you've hit a plateau of sorts and mixing things up is usually a good way to go.

    There's no way to spot reduce fat, but if your getting enough water and doing enough cardio it should help a lot. You've already lost 80lbs, so I'm sure you're doing a lot of stuff right.
     
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    lots of good advice,

    last ingredient is patience
     
  11. B-Ma$e

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    I don't take creatine, so I'm not sure when to take that. As far as protein, you might try having a whey shake with around 20 grams of protein before a workout, and a whey shake with 40-50 grams of protein during or directly after. Take your PWO shake ASAP after you finish weight training, and try not to wait past a half hour.

    In terms of losing weight, the only thing I can suggest that might be hurting you is that you are not focusing enough on weight loss. Obviously weight training is excellent, but what you might be better off doing is minimal weight training when you are trying to drop fat. Just as it is very difficult to put on muscle without putting on a bit of fat at the same time, it is equally difficult to lose fat without losing some muscle. Unfortunately, if you want to lose the belly, you need to focus on cardio and most likely reduce your caloric intake. Switch up cardio as much as possible, and make sure you do high intensity. And don't be discouraged if you drop some muscle. Once you drop the remaining fat, you can focus on weight training, cut down on your cardio, and you will probably have far more success building muscle than ever before. Good luck.
     

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