Question for all military veterans or active duty....

[ironkhan57]

Ok so as many of you know i am actually training for the military but it has been a mad minute since i trained, i have a friend whose helping me out because i recently got a new job at an amazon warehouse in south jersey and i'm able to train with him at night because my work schedule is from 7.00-17.30, so right now i am trying to figure out what style to get back into since i have the time, i was training mainly muay thai and boxing when i was training for the 5 years and also trained briefly some bjj, but i go to MEPS next month, and i'm going to choose the future soldier program, and go 11b infantry, so i just had a question. (This is only for military veterans and active duty) so to help my deision better, my question to the military veterans on here and active is what is the closest style that comes into play when your in a hand to hand combat situation? I know the army has its own style called modern army combat program or whatever. But what is a style that comes to mind when your in a hand to hand combat situation on deployment?

Edit: forgot to mention my friend who i am training with does not have as much time to train, so thats why i'm looking into getting back into training.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Since you are going military, maybe you should play more paint ball, and then learn knife fighting. Forget about H2H. And to train for boot camp, you probably want to do jogging, and some obstacle course climbing. There may be a Spartan Race course in South Jersey, that you can use to prep.

 

[ctrlaltdelete]

If youre training for the military then run miles, do pushups and do situps. Then you will pass the standard physical fitness test whatever it is and then they will teach you all the fun stuff.

 

[CFGroup]

Your objective in H2H is in the event you loose your primary weapon to create space to successfully reach your secondary weapon and engage the enemy.

Drills that have you quickly asses your training partners position and distance, engage and fend off for 1.5 seconds(average time to draw, raise, fire a pistol). use a blindfold and spin a couple of times to simulate disorientation and have your training partner initiate the sequence. There's a ton of variations an old USMC training partner use to work with me on.

Try to avoid to much sport type slow wait to pick your shots sparing, or ground grappling training other than to build endurance. Most of BT sparring and MMA is to build competitiveness.

Run 90 yards, drill 5 re arm sequences, 50 pushups, 2 minute kickbox round, 5 re arm sequences, 20 pullups, 90 yard run, 2 minute roll, 5 re arm sequences, 100 situps, 90 yard run....You get the idea.

A work buddy from last winter qualified for his SEAL contract and sent me this link to his BUD's PST.
https://navyseals.com/nsw/physical-screening-tests/

 

[usmctanker242]

Quit wasting your time... the military will teach you what you need to know and you'll need to do it THEIR way, regardless of how much "experience" you think you have in hand to hand combat training techniques. If you're definitely going Army just do a ton of push-ups and lots of 100 meter sprints. I loved doing track work where I would sprint the straight areas and jog the curves... took about 3-4 minutes off my 3 mile (Marine Corps) run time in just a couple of weeks.

Seriously, don't waste any time on doing hand to hand training because you're going to have to do it the way the Army teaches, even if it's different and "less effective" than what you've done in the past.

Good luck... if you ever decide to grow a pair of balls maybe you could look into the Marines instead.

 

[Pope Leo VII]

will say, one of my partners years back went into the marines.. he FUCKED everyone up when they were fighting/sparring/doing hand to hand combat

side note.. battle the VA on behalf of vets via a law firm

if any vets have questions/issues feel free to PM

 

[ironkhan57]

Your objective in H2H is in the event you loose your primary weapon to create space to successfully reach your secondary weapon and engage the enemy.

Drills that have you quickly asses your training partners position and distance, engage and fend off for 1.5 seconds(average time to draw, raise, fire a pistol). use a blindfold and spin a couple of times to simulate disorientation and have your training partner initiate the sequence. There's a ton of variations an old USMC training partner use to work with me on.

Try to avoid to much sport type slow wait to pick your shots sparing, or ground grappling training other than to build endurance. Most of BT sparring and MMA is to build competitiveness.

Run 90 yards, drill 5 re arm sequences, 50 pushups, 2 minute kickbox round, 5 re arm sequences, 20 pullups, 90 yard run, 2 minute roll, 5 re arm sequences, 100 situps, 90 yard run....You get the idea.

A work buddy from last winter qualified for his SEAL contract and sent me this link to his BUD's PST.
https://navyseals.com/nsw/physical-screening-tests/

Ok when you say re arm, you mean pick up a weapon? I should probably buy a bb gun then since my parents dont allow real guns in the house.

 

[ironkhan57]

Since you are going military, maybe you should play more paint ball, and then learn knife fighting. Forget about H2H. And to train for boot camp, you probably want to do jogging, and some obstacle course climbing. There may be a Spartan Race course in South Jersey, that you can use to prep.

Theirs a gym in brooklyn i can go to thats like a parkour gym, i think i can go their to practice going over obstacles, and man how comes i didn't think of going paintballing. i think this might be a stupid question, but would it help if i got a virtual reality headset and bought a game thats a shooting game? Because i remember a few years ago when me and my family were coming back from hawaii and i was sitting next to this marine and he was telling me they did a VR simulation on the zombie apocalypsw.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Try to avoid to much sport type slow wait to pick your shots sparing, or ground grappling training other than to build endurance. Most of BT sparring and MMA is to build competitiveness.

I llike how you mention that. A lot of self defense situations, you cannot circle your opponent, trying to set something up. You have to just attack immediately and try to overwhelm them. It is a different kind of game from the combat sports.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Theirs a gym in brooklyn i can go to thats like a parkour gym, i think i can go their to practice going over obstacles, and man how comes i didn't think of going paintballing. i think this might be a stupid question, but would it help if i got a virtual reality headset and bought a game thats a shooting game? Because i remember a few years ago when me and my family were coming back from hawaii and i was sitting next to this marine and he was telling me they did a VR simulation on the zombie apocalypsw.

Even the police do some kind of computerized interactive training. They use a projector screen to kind of immerse you into a scenario be it a grocery store, or casino floor, and you interact with the characters on the screen.

Paintball I guess is close to the laser tag training you do in infantry school. The Laser tag obviously has much greater range, while paintball is much closer. If you are in NYC try Indoor Extreme Sports in LIC, and one in Staten Island. Always have lots of people for good deep matches. You can just walk on by yourself.

 

[ironkhan57]

If youre training for the military then run miles, do pushups and do situps. Then you will pass the standard physical fitness test whatever it is and then they will teach you all the fun stuff.

Yeah i'm doing push ups pull ups and sit ups, i can't run a mile straight but i'm working up to it yesterday i was able to run for longer theirs this big ass circle in front of a high school if you run 2.5x around it it equals a mile i was able to run half the circle, so ik i'm improving on that i'm about to work out today and do it again.

Edit: foegot to mention the army MEPS pft my recruiter told me that i have to be able to run 20m 46x

 

[ironkhan57]

Even the police do some kind of computerized interactive training. They use a projector screen to kind of immerse you into a scenario be it a grocery store, or casino floor, and you interact with the characters on the screen.

Paintball I guess is close to the laser tag training you do in infantry school. The Laser tag obviously has much greater range, while paintball is much closer. If you are in NYC try Indoor Extreme Sports in LIC, and one in Staten Island. Always have lots of people for good deep matches. You can just walk on by yourself.

I live in nj but i do travel to that gym in brooklyn every once in a while.

 

[ironkhan57]

Quit wasting your time... the military will teach you what you need to know and you'll need to do it THEIR way, regardless of how much "experience" you think you have in hand to hand combat training techniques. If you're definitely going Army just do a ton of push-ups and lots of 100 meter sprints. I loved doing track work where I would sprint the straight areas and jog the curves... took about 3-4 minutes off my 3 mile (Marine Corps) run time in just a couple of weeks.

Seriously, don't waste any time on doing hand to hand training because you're going to have to do it the way the Army teaches, even if it's different and "less effective" than what you've done in the past.

Good luck... if you ever decide to grow a pair of balls maybe you could look into the Marines instead.

I tried to go into the marines i felt like they were playing me, they wouldn't accept a written doctors note but the army would.

 

[usmctanker242]

I tried to go into the marines i felt like they were playing me, they wouldn't accept a written doctors note but the army would.

A doctors note for what?

 

[ironkhan57]

A doctors note for what?

I'm under medication, but i'm getting off of them next month i told my recruiter that i want to wait until i'm off of them then go to MEPS becausw i did not want them to have a reason to disuqalify me at MEPS.

 

[ironkhan57]

The good thing is, if i get disqualified at MEPS next month, i can go sometime in the future.

 

[usmctanker242]

I'm under medication, but i'm getting off of them next month i told my recruiter that i want to wait until i'm off of them then go to MEPS becausw i did not want them to have a reason to disuqalify me at MEPS.

The good thing is, if i get disqualified at MEPS next month, i can go sometime in the future.

Good luck to you in the future. Sounds like you've got a hell of a long route to go... 11B is going to be a tough climb for you...reading your other posts it sounds like you're out of shape and don't have much stamina. Get out there now and push yourself as hard as you possibly can otherwise Basic / AIT are going to whip your ass. If you're 17-18 years old and can't run a mile then I'm not so certain the military, and especially, infantry are for you.

I'm not trying to be an asshole but you should seriously consider a different MOS... maybe supply or Motor-T.

Edit: Your recruiter sounds like a piece of shit sending you to MEPS when you might not be medically qualified.

 

[ironkhan57]

Good luck to you in the future. Sounds like you've got a hell of a long route to go... 11B is going to be a tough climb for you...reading your other posts it sounds like you're out of shape and don't have much stamina. Get out there now and push yourself as hard as you possibly can otherwise Basic / AIT are going to whip your ass. If you're 17-18 years old and can't run a mile then I'm not so certain the military, and especially, infantry are for you.

I'm not trying to be an asshole but you should seriously consider a different MOS... maybe supply or Motor-T.

Edit: Your recruiter sounds like a piece of shit sending you to MEPS when you might not be medically qualified.

Eh, some recruiters still work with you, but i'm 21 years old, and with the right diet i bet i can get a mile straight within the next 3 months, i don't really see myself doing anything but infantry my push ups are good my pull ups are good my sit ups are good its just my cardio, everytime i run a better mile i post it on instagram i'm not out of shape to the point where i can't run 20m for the MEPS.

 

[usmctanker242]

Eh, some recruiters still work with you, but i'm 21 years old, and with the right diet i bet i can get a mile straight within the next 3 months, i don't really see myself doing anything but infantry my push ups are good my pull ups are good my sit ups are good its just my cardio, everytime i run a better mile i post it on instagram i'm not out of shape to the point where i can't run 20m for the MEPS.

I'm feeling very much like this is a troll thread. If so, then good job... if not, good luck!

 

[ironkhan57]

I'm feeling very much like this is a troll thread. If so, then good job... if not, good luck!

Omfg, can i go one day on this forum without somebody say i'm a troll.