question about the machados

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  1. martialnoah1

    martialnoah1 White Belt

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    So there is a possibility I can go down to socal on a vacation, and I was wondering, which of the machado brothers can help my top game the best. Which of the brothers has the best top game?
     
  2. mgbyrnc

    mgbyrnc Yellow Belt

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    i dunno but ive heard that Rigan is on roughly the same level as Rickson
     
  3. thegreenblender

    thegreenblender Brown Belt

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    Rigan has crazy top game they say. From everyone I know who's trained with him (haven't personally)
     
  4. pailum117

    pailum117 Blue Belt

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    What is your rank? Unless you're a brown belt or above it wont make any difference whatsoever. All of the Machados will be able to give you amazing pointers, not one more so than another.
     
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    SuperSuperRambo Senior Moderator Senior Moderator

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    This. If you're at a lower rank, you're not at the point of specialization.

    Rigan and Jean Jacques are both legends.
     
  6. BuenoEx

    BuenoEx Yellow Belt

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    I have to agree with what has been said here so far. If you are an advanced belt then by all means, train with Rigan. He is like a mountain. He has a series of pillow chokes that are soul crushing. That said, Jean Jacques, John, Rigan and Roger are all amazing. You'll learn a ton from any of them.
     
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    wickedvvayz Brown Belt

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    "So there is a possibility I can go down to socal on a vacation"

    So who the hell are you, LMAO...

    But agreed with post above. unless, your planning to move down and start taking there reg. classes.
     
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    gocubs1815 Black Belt

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    Cricket White Belt

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    I would go with the one that has a similar body type as you...rigan is a big guy, so his top game is probably different than a smaller guy, such as carlos
     
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    curb1850 Green Belt

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    Hes a big dude, are you big? I'd agree with the body type comment.
     
  11. joe90210

    joe90210 Blue Belt

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    there is a video of rickson vs rigan on youtube, rigan gets swept, mounted and armbarred in under a minute
     
  12. Tony Manifold

    Tony Manifold Brown Belt

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    Must not be this one. Quality is the shits but it is a pretty good match. hard to tell who is who.

     
  13. curb1850

    curb1850 Green Belt

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    I'd like to see that... anyone know where to find it?
     
  14. SMillard

    SMillard Red Belt

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    it is on youtube, They also have matches where Rickson won on points; so don't count Rigan out as being a chump compared to Rickson. The guy is a beast, I did a seminar with him and it was very impressive.

    That being said, I'd say Jean Jaque is the more innovative of all the brothers. Everyone I've ever talked to about him talk about him like he is a "wizard" their words not mine. Depending on your rank, body type and style (if you have one and if you are not at least a purple belt your style probably hasn't really developed) I'd just train with which ever one you could. It is just nice to train with legends like that.
     
  15. Resendiz

    Resendiz Just glad to be able to train again.

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    Rigan is a BIG man and a top player. He has a SMASHING top game, the force is strong with him. Jean Jacques weighs about 170-185lbs and is a guard player. I guarantee that Jean Jacques will make you feel as if he were a 230lb man on top of you. Unless you pay privates I doubt either will show top game only.

    Id go for the body type that fits you most.
     
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    My instructor has his black under Rigan and Rigan came in for a little seminar. He rolled a little with everyone in class and he was always on top and it was like wrestling a king-size mattress with octopus arms. I'm pretty sure his top game is impossible to beat, hence his legendary status and incredible match record..
     

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