Question about a how to get out of a headlock

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  1. gibson6

    gibson6 Orange Belt

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    when someone is on top of you and has you in a headlock and you cant seperate there hands, what do you do? they are in half gaurd jus layin on you and wont move at all until you tap. this recentely happened to me and i had no idea what to do so i just tapped but it hurt so bad and i thought there was no way to get out. does anyone kno how to get o;ut of this?
     
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    no one knows?
     
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    Your thread title needs work. Edit it to make it more specific and you might get some responses.
     
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    codemonkey76 Black Belt

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    frame the face with your forearm, push they will break their grip, be careful and wary of the side choke though
     
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    codemonkey's right, I'm just curious if he's talking about a neck crank though or some kind of guillotine type choke?
     
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    when I say "he" I mean the TS and not codemonkey
     
  7. DangerDan

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    Maybe he means the scarf choke where you choke the person with their own arm?
     
  8. codemonkey76

    codemonkey76 Black Belt

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    i don't thik he is talking about kata gatame (side choke / head-arm choke), If he is maybe he will elaborate, there is a few escapes for kata gatame, the main one being the "answer the phone/comb the hair) move" combined with, changing the angle of the pin and usin the legs as momentum to sit up and reverse the position
     
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    it sounds to me like someone was just doing a caveman neck crank on him or even holding his head in position and laying on it, cause he describes it as hurting really bad as opposed to being choked
     
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    codemonkey76 Black Belt

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    best counter to the can opener is the double armbar
     
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    ^ hahah, yes.
    I'ma stop creeping this thread now
     
  13. there isnt cause once they are in half guard you mest up. I recently pulled a move on this 280 pound big arms guy. The key is once your in half guard the guy got you. You can avoid it from avoiding him getting the position. :icon_chee
     
  14. codemonkey76

    codemonkey76 Black Belt

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    Half-guard is a fairly neutral position, not necessarily a bad place to be, especially if you have the underhook... If the guy is facing your legs, then if you have your head in the inside position, you are in the dominant position and the underhook is less important
     
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    if only i had that kinda flexability

    ts you should elaborate, if this is a street fight situation bite that motherfucker or gouge his eyes or some shit, if this happened during training just create space by putting your forearm on his throat and pushing away
     
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    i don't understand?

    you don't need any particular flexibility, as soon as they reach their arms above your sternum height, start climbing those legs, lock those shoulders up and lift your hips for the tap
     
  17. gibson6

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    im talking about like an arm triangle only its not choking u and no this is not a street fight.

    and thanks alot u guys
     
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    Gibson6 are you referring to kesa gatame, where your opponent has his arm under your head and not your far arm? If so, attempt to drive the trapped elbow to the ground. Often your opponent will attempt to block that move by driving his weight onto your body and pulling on the trapped arm. Simultaneously scoot your hips as close to your opponent's hips and bridge over your opposite shoulder pulling your opponent over your body for the reversal. If you can get your trapped elbow to the ground there are three or four different escapes from the standard headlock depending on your opponent's body position. It's a relatively high percentage move.
     
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    preferably behind you, with both hooks sunk in
    if the guy's superbig/heavy and framing/bridging doesn't work

    1. PULL that trapped arm out quick (rule of thumb is to keep your elbow close to yourself and wedge it against the guy's hip) now that will help your bridge/turn shrimp
    2. Repeatedly push (or lightly palm strike) behind the top of the guy's shoulder (the arm that's around your neck) to create space so you can move into back control
     

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