Social Queen B's Partisan COVID/Vaccine Megathread

[pinger]

Yea I realize that dummy.. I got the vaccine … you partisan hatred blinds you from the obvious mockery of MSM

And 88 percent of people are vaccinated. You need a maths lesson.

Do we need to bring out the coloured blocks for you to understand the fractions?

 

[fedoriswar37]

You need to seek help. Seriously.

I don't know you but if you told me you smoked, I'd say I hope you quit for your own health's sake but I wouldn't want you to die simply because you disagree with me on policy.

Literal mental illness. Sherdog needs to remove these people for their own good.

 

[fedoriswar37]

These people are so terrified at the tiny percentage of vaccine deaths when its clear you have a much higher chance of dying from Covid. So much that they reference all these videos from youtube.

Who is the real sheep?

Had covid. Fully recovered. No need for the vaccine at this time. It makes 0 sense. Maybe down the road.

 

[AndroidRage]

Really!?! It's just not a vaccine by any means and nowhere close to the definition.

It's just not a vaccine and these are the post that solidify it.

@Not A Real Fan Making posts that beg the cosmos for this virus to kill Republicans will get you banned really fast my man. You need to turn down your abhorrent hate for a group of people you assign a political label to.

How pathetic.

Do you have proof that it is not a vaccine? Or are you just an idiot? Do you think that vaccine must = 100% effective?

 

[Blayt7hh]

Imagine how many lives could have been saved if the right wing media influencers wouldn't have downplayed the virus and turned it political.

The safest part, I know quite a few downplaying the virus and need for the vaccine, like Mr Trump himself got the vaccine. Jesus H Christ people

 

[HeLLMuTT]

Do you have proof that it is not a vaccine? Or are you just an idiot? Do you think that vaccine must = 100% effective?

By the definition "A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine

Edit; I don't gain by being a asshole.

 

[Sano]

Dude. More than 600.000 Americans have died of complications of Covid. This was with everything shut down. If life had went on like normal before the vaccine, especially during the waves, how do you think it would have turned out?

 

[HeffDoesWant]

COVID doesn't worry me, long covid sure does.

2nd shot Tomorrow.

 

[boxingskills]

Their are plenty of people who have had horrific side effects from the vaccine too, the difference is the media, youtube, twitter, and google censor one and promote and glorify the other. Stop being manipulated by these people.

5,099,219 adverse reactions
31,389 deaths

According to VAERS, Eudravigillance, and Yellow Card reporting systems.

 

[boxingskills]

He realized he fucked up. Fucked up big time.
He realized he was wrong. So so wrong.

He was wrong. That doesn't make me wrong.

 

[MicroBrew]

The virus was political the moment government began instituting mandates and shutdowns. Closing businesses, ruining lives, instituting policies without concrete evidence or knowledge. It easily led to the insinuation that tanking the economy would help the 2020 election against Trump because a happy, economically benefitting populace is hard turn. In my estimation, anyway.

Politics is not a game of concurrence anymore. There will never be another President with 90% approval (W. Bush) or winning 44 and then 49 (damn near all 50) states (Reagan). It's diametric opposition from here on out.

Mask mandates and lockdowns were anything but political, it was a safety issue. Almost all countries did the same thing. If you had a person with a highly communicable disease, you would want them quarantined.

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

I may not like his politics and if he was indeed spreading anti vax propaganda on his show I’d say he was a danger to others but I wouldn’t wish that kind of death on him. Hope he recovers

You do realise that vaccination does not immediately give 100 percent protection, but the major reason is to reduce the symptoms and the hospitalisation rate so it does not over whelm the medical system?

A surprising number don’t realise this. My work still has a ‘mask on in communal areas’ policy and some refuse saying ‘I’ve had the jab I’m fine’. Had a friend really sick for a week with covid and she said to me “so much for the vaccine” I was shocked as she’s a intelligent well informed person but she was under the impression that her vaccine would stop her getting it and spreading it

 

[Heisenboom]

Dude. More than 600.000 Americans have died of complications of Covid. This was with everything shut down. If life had went on like normal before the vaccine, especially during the waves, how do you think it would have turned out?

Nonsense numbers.

 

[FIMN]

Nonsense numbers.

If you look at the range of actual versus expected deaths in the US, what number are you calculating?

 

[ShadowRun]

And 88 percent of people are vaccinated. You need a maths lesson.

Do we need to bring out the coloured blocks for you to understand the fractions?

No it’s not 88% stupid Canada over took USA per ratio. What is maths ? You mean math there isn’t a plural slick

 

[ocean size]

Really!?! It's just not a vaccine by any means and nowhere close to the definition.

It's just not a vaccine and these are the post that solidify it.

Imagine being this far into the pandemic and still repeating such incorrect shitty dumb taking points

 

[Heisenboom]

If you look at the range of actual versus expected deaths in the US, what number are you calculating?

Numerous number reductions have happened in various States, you just dont hear about it. Death attributed from/with is also another red flag.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/06/ca-co...after-finding-fatalities-not-caused-by-covid/

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/07/02/santa-clara-county-revises-covid-death-toll-down/

https://www.bdtonline.com/news/loca...cle_248a2b52-6bff-5935-b179-1f5a81d0e3ba.html


Things like this add up.

 

[Arkain2K]

GOP’s vaccine push comes with strong words, few actions
By JILL COLVIN and BRIAN SLODYSKO

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican politicians are under increasing pressure to speak out to persuade COVID-19 vaccine skeptics to roll up their sleeves and take the shots as a new, more contagious variant sends caseloads soaring. But after months of ignoring — and, in some cases, stoking — misinformation about the virus, experts warn it may be too late to change the minds of many who are refusing.

In recent news conferences and statements, some prominent Republicans have been imploring their constituents to lay lingering doubts aside. In Washington, the so-called Doctors Caucus gathered at the Capitol for an event to combat vaccine hesitancy. And in Florida, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis this week pointed to data showing the vast majority of hospitalized COVID-19 patients hadn’t received shots.

“These vaccines are saving lives,” said DeSantis, who recently began selling campaign merchandise mocking masks and medical experts.

The outreach comes as COVID-19 cases have nearly tripled in the U.S. over the last two weeks, driven by the explosion of the new delta variant, especially in pockets of the country where vaccination rates are low. Public health officials believe the variant is at least twice as contagious as the original version, but the shots appear to offer robust protection against serious illness for most people.

Indeed, nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. are now people who haven’t been vaccinated. Nonetheless, just 56.2% of Americans have received at least one vaccine dose, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Overall, only 51% of Republicans said in mid-June that they had received at least one vaccine dose, versus 83% of Democrats, according to an AP-NORC poll. And many appeared to have made up their minds. Forty-six percent of those who had not been vaccinated said they definitely would not. Among Republicans, even more — 53% — said they definitely wouldn’t; just 12% said they were planning to.

“I think they’ve finally realized that if their people aren’t vaccinated, they’re going to get sick, and if their people aren’t vaccinated, they’re going to get blamed for COVID outbreaks in the future,” said GOP pollster Frank Luntz, who has been working with the Biden administration and public health experts to craft effective messaging to bring the vaccine hesitant off the fence.

But Luntz, who conducted another focus group Wednesday evening with vaccine holdouts, said there has been a discernible shift in recent weeks as skepticism has calcified into hardened refusal.

“The hesitation has transformed into opposition. And once you are opposed, it is very hard to change that position. And that’s what’s happening right now,” he said.

For months now, many conservative lawmakers and pundits have been actively stoking vaccine hesitancy, refusing to take the shots themselves or downplaying the severity of the virus. Republican governors have signed bills protecting the unvaccinated from having to disclose their status and tried to roll back mask mandates. And on social media, disinformation has run rampant, leading President Joe Biden to claim platforms like Facebook were “killing people” — a claim he later walked back.

At a recent conservative gathering, attendees cheered the news that the Biden administration was falling short of its vaccination goals. Invoking the nation’s top infectious-disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., warned, the government: “Don’t come knocking on my door with your Fauci Ouchie! You leave us the hell alone.”

Others, including former President Donald Trump, have repeatedly defended those who have chosen not to get vaccinated, stressing that the decision is a personal choice. Instead, they have pointed fingers at Democrats, suggesting they are to blame for the distrust.

“People are refusing to take the Vaccine because they don’t trust (Biden’s) Administration, they don’t trust the Election results, and they certainly don’t trust the Fake News,” Trump said in a recent statement.

But there were signs that messaging was changing this week, as conservative leaders advocated for the shots. On Fox News, host Sean Hannity implored his viewers to “please take COVID seriously,” saying, “Enough people have died.” Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley on Twitter encouraged “ALL eligible Iowans/Americans to get vaccinated.”

“The Delta variant scares me so I hope those that haven’t been vaccinated will reconsider,” he wrote.

Louisiana Rep. Steve Scalise, the House Republican whip, distributed pictures of himself receiving his first dose of the vaccine last weekend after months of holding out.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, a polio survivor who has consistently advocated on behalf of the COVID-19 shots, this week urged the unvaccinated to ignore “all these other voices that are giving demonstrably bad advice.”

But the news conference convened by House GOP leaders on Thursday highlighted Republicans’ competing messages on the virus.

Initially billed as an event where Republican doctors in Congress would address the rapidly spreading delta variant, the group instead spent most of its time railing against China and making unverified claims that the coronavirus came from a lab leak in Wuhan, a theory initially popular in far-right circles but now being seriously considered by scientists. They also attacked Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Biden administration, for not doing more to get to the bottom of the lab leak theory.

“The question is, Why are Democrats stonewalling our efforts to uncover the origins of the COVID virus?” said New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, the No. 3 Republican in the House.

Eric Ward, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center who studies extremism, blamed vaccine reluctance on “nearly a year-and-a-half of right-wing rage machine rhetoric.”

“Even conservative leaders now are having a hard time figuring out how to rein in what had primarily been a propaganda campaign, and they are now realizing their constituencies are particularly vulnerable,” he said.

While some Republicans may be using strong words to promote the vaccine, few are proposing new measures to urge vaccination, such as incentives, public information campaigns or more aggressive outreach.

In New Hampshire, where shots have slowed to about 1,000 per week, Republican Gov. Chris Sununu said Thursday that there are no immediate plans to launch new initiatives.

“Right now, it’s folks’ individual responsibility. If someone hasn’t been vaccinated at this point, they’ve made that conscious decision not to,” he said. “The government’s job is to provide that open door. If you want the vaccine, here it is, nice and easy. If you need more information, here it is. So you have every tool in the toolbox available to you and your family to make that decision.”

Other Republican continue to peddle falsehoods.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., was suspended from posting on Twitter for 12 hours earlier this week after spreading disinformation about vaccine-related deaths. And Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, a popular youth conservative advocacy group that last weekend hosted a conference that drew former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and numerous members of Congress, suggested without evidence on his podcast that up to 1.2 million could have died after getting the COVID-19 vaccine.

In his focus groups, Luntz said that many skeptics have struggled to assess the veracity of the things they read and hear.

“There is so much misinformation out there, and they can’t tell the difference between what is accurate and what is fake,” he said. “So it makes it virtually impossible to communicate when they don’t know what to believe.”

https://apnews.com/article/joe-bide...rus-pandemic-03e6b17b205b18067c05e07b77dc2e04

 

[The Audience]

How do you feel with AZ appearing to be less effective against the delta variant so far? Australia put it's eggs in that basket early and then changed their mind. The messaging around it is hard to come back from now for us as much as they try. Many people I know got it early, had terrible reactions to their first dose and the messaging around it has them concerned for the second. They were the early adopters and now they want to revax with Pfizer.

It seems to be in line with its reduced effectiveness to previous variants. My sense is that it is still generally a good vaccine but may be more in need of boosters than the mRna ones which seem to be handling the variants better.

 

[4daLuLZ]

So there going to be a thread for every right wing person that got COVID?
Well maybe people should make stupid threads about the left NPC’s out there

Yeah I’m sure the mild fever / chills they’ll most likely get compares to the death bed whinings of the unvaccinated.