Quebec votes for first conservative majority in 50 years

[Grenz]

Quebec, Canada's only primarily French speaking province and second most populous, has voted for a Conservative government tonight for the first time in 50 years. The CAQs priorities are:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-election-result-1.4846201

- smaller government
- more privatized healthcare
- extend child benefit (2,400 per year per child, right now you only get it for the first)
- decrease immigration
- secular charter: certain government employees (e.g. police, teachers) can't wear any sort of religious symbols, e.g. a teacher couldn't wear a Hijab while teaching

During the last 50 years, Quebec has only ever had the Liberals or the Parti Quebecois (French separatists with just a smidgen of fascism thrown in) in power. The government sector here is bloated as fuck, we pay money for ridiculous shit like yearly driver's license renewal ($80, increases with accrued demerit points) and we pay the highest income tax in Canada (while also being the largest recipient of transfer payments). Let these guys have a go at it, see how it goes.

 

[TheGreatA]

Sounds like a pretty reasonable conservative government.

Secularism is starting to increasingly become a conservative agenda, except perhaps in America for the time being (Trump still represents a shift towards that from the previous Republicans, though). It is the "libs" who are all aboard the freedom of religion train, these days, in order to have all that exotic religious diversity on display.

 

[Happy Man]

Maybe it's cuz the lefty French Canadians don't want any more immigrants. It's finally caught up to them.

 

[ShadowRun]

what a racist country

 

[dontsnitch]

Don't mess with dairy farmers.

 

[Bald1]

This brings a tear to my eye. The left one.

"- secular charter: certain government employees (e.g. police, teachers) can't wear any sort of religious symbols, e.g. a teacher couldn't wear a Hijab while teaching"

I've been preaching this for years. The anti-far left movement is also encouraging.

 

[Bald1]

Maybe it's cuz the lefty French Canadians don't want any more immigrants. It's finally caught up to them.

I'm sure this is at the root of it.

 

[trac209]

I'm sure this is at the root of it.

Enough is enough and it’s time for a change

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I love Montreal and Quebec City, which is all I know of French Canada. But I know nothing about their politics besides the secessionist thing a few years back.

 

[bushman505]

Hate won....

Misogyny won...

Racism won...

For reals though, aren’t Canadian “conservatives” pretty close to USA liberals...

 

[Bald1]

Enough is enough and it’s time for a change

Enough of the open door policy. Agreed.

Properly vetted immigrants who want to become Canadians? Yes please.

 

[Grenz]

This brings a tear to my eye. The left one.

"- secular charter: certain government employees (e.g. police, teachers) can't wear any sort of religious symbols, e.g. a teacher couldn't wear a Hijab while teaching"

I've been preaching this for years. The anti-far left movement is also encouraging.

There'll be a fight over this. The PQ already tried to head in that direction several years ago and ultimately failed. Our niqab ban? Failed, or at least stalled indefinitely. This will be an uphill battle, and Trudeau's liberals will join the fight at some point, that's guaranteed. Wouldn't want to miss the chance for some pre-election virtue peacocking.

 

[Grenz]

Maybe it's cuz the lefty French Canadians don't want any more immigrants. It's finally caught up to them.

The increased illegal border crossings definitely impacted the election in the CAQ's favour.

 

[j123]

For reals though, aren’t Canadian “conservatives” pretty close to USA liberals...

Yeah

 

[irish_thug]

Quebec, Canada's only primarily French speaking province and second most populous, has voted for a Conservative government tonight for the first time in 50 years. The CAQs priorities are:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-election-result-1.4846201

- smaller government
- more privatized healthcare
- extend child benefit (2,400 per year per child, right now you only get it for the first)
- decrease immigration
- secular charter: certain government employees (e.g. police, teachers) can't wear any sort of religious symbols, e.g. a teacher couldn't wear a Hijab while teaching

During the last 50 years, Quebec has only ever had the Liberals or the Parti Quebecois (French separatists with just a smidgen of fascism thrown in) in power. The government sector here is bloated as fuck, we pay money for ridiculous shit like yearly driver's license renewal ($80, increases with accrued demerit points) and we pay the highest income tax in Canada (while also being the largest recipient of transfer payments). Let these guys have a go at it, see how it goes.

Good for you guys. Do it again in 2019.

 

[58miles]

Hate won....

Misogyny won...

Racism won...

For reals though, aren’t Canadian “conservatives” pretty close to USA liberals...

Canadian Conservatives would be voting Democrat if they lived in the US. The Democratic party of California is about the closet you would get to Canada's liberal Party and the Canadian Consevative Party are is like slightly to the left of Republican Governor Charlie Baker of Massachusetts or Republican Mike Bloomberg when he was Mayor of NYC.

 

[Bald1]

There'll be a fight over this. The PQ already tried to head in that direction several years ago and ultimately failed. Our niqab ban? Failed, or at least stalled indefinitely. This will be an uphill battle, and Trudeau's liberals will join the fight at some point, that's guaranteed. Wouldn't want to miss the chance for some pre-election virtue peacocking.

Baby steps. It makes sense that representatives of a secular government appear secular while on the job. I haven't seen a decent argument against this anywhere. Freedom of religion does not factor into it as the flipside is freedom from religion imo. It'll come.

That supposed "liberals" argue against this legit confuses me.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Good stuff. Keep going right and out of the progressive dark ages.

 

[Grenz]

Good for you guys. Do it again in 2019.

I think the majority of conservative votes in QC in 2019 will go to Bernier. A lot of Quebec conservatives are pretty hardcore French, and if they'd have to choose between Scheer and Bernier, they'dd go with Bernier simply because Bernier's French (unless they're dairy farmers). However, even if the conservative vote goes to Bernier, but with a large enough number of votes to beat out the liberals, it;s a much bigger loss to the Libs, since they traditionally rely on Quebec and the Conservatives almost don't bother trying to get any votes here anymore. That's a huge number of voters the Liberals would lose in a province where the Conservatives have literally nothing to lose.

 

[TheGreatA]

Baby steps. It makes sense that representatives of a secular government appear secular while on the job. I haven't seen a decent argument against this anywhere. Freedom of religion does not factor into it as the flipside is freedom from religion imo. It'll come.

That supposed "liberals" argue against this legit confuses me.

Anyone who groans whenever they hear a politician swear something "in the name of God", with their hand on the Bible, should be all aboard such laws.

A lot of modern progressives seem awfully hesitant to pull the trigger on that, though. Perhaps because it would interfere with some of their other, seemingly more important pet projects (such as bringing in dudes with medieval religious beliefs).