PWD 150: Arena only holds 37,000, but that doesn't mean we can't say it's 80,000!

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  1. PRIDEWASBETTER

    PRIDEWASBETTER Whatever it takes Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    lol

    I get so much shit for being a Chael fan it's unreal.
     
  2. Michaelangelo

    Michaelangelo Okay USA Platinum Member

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    I paid 18 bucks for really good A's tickets. You have a point where they will jack up the prices but they could at least renovate the bathrooms and put in some good food.
     
  3. Frank23

    Frank23 Enter Sandman Belt Platinum Member

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    The WWE World Heavyweight Championship should be vacated.
     
  4. Prime Shane Douglas

    Prime Shane Douglas The Franchise

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    Chael is one of the best things in MMA.

    My favorite crititque of him is that he "talked his way to a title shot" It's like people totally forget he beat a top 15 at the time in Miller, and two top 5's at the time in Okami and Marquardt all in a row prior to his Silva fight.

    He promoted the hell out of it yes, but that title fight was earned.
     
  5. D.R.H.

    D.R.H. If you haven't heard...I'm the best! Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I think they mean the Jones fight with that critique.
     
  6. RollSonnenRoll

    RollSonnenRoll On the square. On the level.

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    I know the feeling lol.

    Not just beat but dominated those guys. He earned that first fight with Silva no doubt and gave the spider all he could handle at the peak of his invincibility aura.

    I can't argue that one. At least he stepped up on 8 days notice though. It was the UFC's fault for stretching it out into TUF months in advance. That was ridiculous and made everyone look bad.
     
  7. Kemo**

    Kemo** Red Belt

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    Chael is the only guy in MMA that could cross into wrestling and it actually feel right. This Tom Lawlor ROH garbage is too much.
     
  8. Pliny Pete

    Pliny Pete Puts Butts In Seats

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    Conor McGregor does a way better "Chael" than Chael does
    CMG wouldve been a terrific heel manager in the territories
     
  9. Michaelangelo

    Michaelangelo Okay USA Platinum Member

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    WWE says the launch of the Network hurt their TV deal. They said if they had waited, the launch would have been delayed by a year.
     
  10. warriorscommando

    warriorscommando I will always protect you

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    Why doesnt wrestling have interim belts? They work fantastic in boxing/mma. Champ vs champ, my belt is the real belt bla bla.
     
  11. zane

    zane SPANKY!

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    People still fucking watch MMA?
     
  12. Reverse Flash

    Reverse Flash Lost In Time Platinum Member

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    He's the Bully Ray of MMA. Nobody gives a fuck about him except weirdos and nerds that get fascinated by his unfunny jokes. He's beaten nobodies and talks like he's a superstar.
     
  13. Reverse Flash

    Reverse Flash Lost In Time Platinum Member

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    Guys like Ziggler will be exploding backstage if they don't even get to be in a program for the interim title.
     
  14. D.R.H.

    D.R.H. If you haven't heard...I'm the best! Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Interim belts are retarded enough in real sports let alone in wrestling.
     
  15. ToastFaceKilla

    ToastFaceKilla Purple Belt

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    I just want to make enough money to buy the grand oly back from korean jesus and run PWG out of it.







    Yes.... I have silly dreams.
     
  16. TheStruggle

    TheStruggle Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    -Vince said he hoped to give "a great deal of clarity" regarding where things are from a business standpoint. He noted that he was in London for Raw. He said the point of the call was to clear up any degree of misunderstanding and said they pride themselves in transparency.

    -Vince said there was a "somewhat favorable outcome" in television deals. He admitted they were a bit disappointed in their NBCU deal, but they were able to nearly double their overall television rights revenue. "A good deal, not what we wanted," Vince said regarding the NBCU deal.

    -Vince said the core business is "rock solid." He said they feel very strong and bullish in the WWE Network business model. Vince turned it over to Barrios.

    -Barrios said they invested $75 million into the network in 2012 and 2013 and $40 million in staffing.

    -Barrios said they have negotiated television distribution deals over the last six months and are still doing so in India. "Our analysis indicated that our content was undervalued in several of our key markets," he said. Barrios said that in three out of four markets they were correct. Barrios walked callers through a release regarding their financial outlook.

    -Barrios said that if WWE Network produces one million subscribers by the end of 2014, it would yield a 12-month average of 650,000 subscribers for the year. The rate of adoption translates to a 2014 net loss ranging from $45 to $52 million.

    -Barrios walked viewers through a 2015 potential outcome using a 1.5 million subscriber count while stressing that it's merely a scenario. He said they expect "a gradual ramp up over time" in network subscribers. He stressed that opening the network globally and expanding the platforms and marketing campaigns as keys.

    -The opened up the phone lines for calls.

    -A caller asked whether the launch of the network was an issue in television negotiations and whether they would delay the launch if they had to do it again. Vince said it was a fair question and he believes it did have an adverse effect, but waiting until after the negotiations would have delayed the network by another year.

    -A caller asked about the NBCU deal. Barrios said they will not be greater than five years.

    -Barrios said there is a $60 million cannibalization number in the United States for pay-per-view, and an additional $20 million worldwide.

    -A caller noted that investors are concerned about the dividend. He asked whether investors can assume the dividend is safe. Barrios said that if they are successful executing the network strategy then they have the financial capacity to support the dividend, but that depends on successful execution.

    -The caller noted that AT&T and DirecTV said they hope to invest in over the top distributors. He asked if WWE has had any talks about selling their content that way. Vince said he believes everyone will recognize that over the top distribution is the way of the future. He said there will be many opportunities that open up for WWE similar to the one mentioned by the caller.

    -A caller was having cell issues and Vince McMahon could not understand his question (it was nearly impossible to make out). Vince turned it over to Barrios, but he disappeared from the call as well. "Shit," McMahon said. The conference call host put things on hold while they got Barrios back on the line. There was a few minute delay.

    -A caller brought up the turnover with the network executive that was let go. Barrios said they are very comfortable with their current management team and would not get into specifics regarding the decision.

    -A caller asked about the subscriber count. Barrios said they would get into that in their next conference call (on a quarterly basis).

    -They brought back the caller with the bad phone connection and it flared up again. It was Brad Safalow, the man who was told by Vince that he could put him in a hammerlock if they failed to double their television revenue. Safalow resisted any temptation to bring that up and asked financial related questions.

    -A caller said people are a little confused why total spending at a steady state would be higher during the ramp state. He mentioned content development as a possibility. Barrios said they are moving to a subscription business model that they don't have history in.

    -Barrios said they are learning every day about the business side of the network. He said people want certainty, but he can't give it to them. A caller asked about what type of growth strategy they have for it. Barrios said they are promoters at their core and they have a team of marketers. He said he didn't want to let the cat out of the bag regarding plans. He mentioned his previous announcement of Tough Enough appearing on the network.

    -A caller asked what type of growth numbers they have to see over the next 12 to 24 months from network growth. Barrios once again said he couldn't give an exact number. He said they need to see it and live it to get a perspective.

    -The idea of the holiday season as a time for network subscriber growth since a lot of kids have to ask their mom and dad to order the pay-per-view. Barrios said he sees every single hour of every day as a time for new network subscribers.

    -Barrios asked if there were additional calls. The host said no, then said there was another caller, then they wrapped up the call without taking the call.
     
  17. DannyBoy1985

    DannyBoy1985 Brown Belt

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    Paul Bowser's AWA created a Duration AWA World Heavyweight Title while the true AWA World Heavyweight Champion Steve "Crusher" Casey was off serving in the army during WWII. The Duration World title was won by The Golden Terror, who would lose it to Sandor Szabo, then Casey defeated Szabo once he returned from the army and that was the end of it.
     
  18. The Diplomat

    The Diplomat Peace Among Worlds

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    All "official" sources point to the Saitama Super Arena having well over 37,000 people at numerous PRIDE events, even though the official capacity is 37,000. Shockwave 2004,2005 and 2006 were all in the 48,000+ range.

    Ofcourse, this could also be a matter of Hulk Hogan slamming a 1000lb giant infront of 100,000 hulkamaniacs, brother.
     
  19. Smigg

    Smigg Silver Belt

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    Which was the point I was trying to make to the guy. But he has his Pride Glasses on, he once said "Pride got 60-80,000 EVERY show"

    So, Pride, to him, are the beacon of honesty and purity, that it was that nasty Dana White who tipped off the Japanese media about Yakuza involvement, although he has no actual proof.

    So, he's the definition of the Pride Dipshit.
     
  20. ToastFaceKilla

    ToastFaceKilla Purple Belt

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    Anyone hear anything about willie mack signing to the WWE?
     
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