Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by irc, Apr 8, 2008.
I think Wendy's has the best hamburgers, but Ive never been a fan of the square patties. Burgers are meant to be circular!
Its because Wendy's doesnt cut corners
does that make white the new blue?
No that makes Blue the new white and Whites in an existenial crisis
Maybe at your school, round here it still takes a long time and an intense amount of dedication.
I think he means purple is the new level at which people are regarded as effective, able to teach a bit and are very competent.
Used to be 8+ years ago a solid blue (who had been blue for a year or two) was not so common all over the country. Now blues are everywhere.
That's because BJJ is becoming popular...like Wendy's.
I dont know why this should even be an issue. Blue belts in the states were good because there werent many people to promote them. Check the standards in Brazil. I doubt there are many people over there who stay a white belt for more than a year.
I was thinking this same exact thought yesterday. Reason being, when I started training there weren't many blue belts and the guys who had them were grappling gods. So it seemed.
Now, blue belts are a dime a dozen, but there aren't many purples around. So now, purples seem really f'n good and blues are just blues.
So, I agree purple is the new blue.
Yeah I've seen some crappy blues.
In Brazil, its easier to get your blue though I hear.
a bit counterintuitive... why's that?
I started when there was no on ein my area took me better part of two years to get my blue ..
Netter part of two years now .. and I am sniffing purple .
It's still tough here
Took me three years to get purp - probably take a few more to get brown.
I don't know -- I remember when every blue seemed like a monster, but that's just because I sucked. Maybe I haven't been training long enough, but most of the folks I thought were just incredible blues got promoted to purple pretty quickly.
Depends on the school- I doubt the Cesar Gracie students would agree with you
The same reason it is easier to get a Blackbelt in Judo in Japan. Different rules, different culture. Lots of high level guys.
I was thinking this the other day as well. It's not that it's easier to get a blue, it's that there are so many now. I remember back in the day I thought blues were super badass. Now I'm tapping them and they're everywhere. So yeah, Purple is def the new blue in terms of distinguishing yourself. And yeah, Wendy's is the shit. WAR Frostys & stack attacks.
I halfway agree here.
When I started at Relson's it was rare to see a purple, but there were a lot of blues. I guess they just got stuck at blue. Even today there are a lot of blues.
When Relson was away in Brazil or doing seminars in the states there were two browns who ran the classes. It was a BIG deal to get a blue at the academy. I know I got emotional when I got my blue. It was even a BIGGER deal to get a purple. Because my original class had about 15-20 guys who started with me I thought we all would be blue belts. Only four stayed around for the blue, sixteen left or dropped out and now there is only two of us at purple at Relsons, the other two went to another school and almost immediately got promoted to purple.
So while I agree that at my school, there are a lot of blues I don't see anybody who is undeserving of the blue or the purple. I think the blue belt is much bigger pool than the white even. I have seen our whites and blues beat purples who visit but not vice versa. Hell one day some purple belt who fights mma visited our school when I was a blue. Since that night I think I was the highest rank he asked me to roll.
I beat him three straight times and only once was not in guard. Thinking my size had something to do with it I told the smaller students who were lower blues and whites to roll him. All the whites and blues were triangling him and arm barring him from the guard. It was ridiculous. After that class he never came back but was supposed to be fighting in a mma match the following month.
I think the school's instructor dictates the belt grading and some of the instructors are very rigid and old school. Instructors like Relson, Renzo, Fabio Santos, Pedro Sauer, Ceaser, Caique, etc. have higher standards so there is a bigger pool of blues at that school because the purple is harder still to achieve.
When my teacher went to brazil, since there was no one in alberta who could teach or promote him in BJJ at the time, he had to wear a white belt. And the rank was appropriate because the blue's were destroying him handily(despite his training in JJJ supplimented with Gracie Instructional DVD's). It took him a month and a half to earn his blue. However, he was training 5 days a week, twice a day.
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