punching bag question

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if i wanna train my boxing, strength behind my punches... what should i do? i dont have a punching bag and really dont have the money to afford a good one at the moment... any tricks u guys know that will help me with this situation will be appreciated.
 
Push ups, bench press and similar lifts, and work on your technique. I would say your technique (foot work and properly turning your body with the punch) would give you the most benefit.
 
Do you mean what will improve the strength of your punches? If so it is a mix of shadowboxing, conditioning, lifting (for power and endurance), and technique.

Or do you mean what will improve your strength punches like cross and hook? If so it is pretty much the same as above. You want power to hit hard, endurance to hit hard many times, conditioning so you don't gas and get tired, and technique so that you correctly put as much power behind each punch.
 
i think youll have a tough time improving at all without the proper equipment. W/o a heavy bag, speedbag, and someone to spar with and work mitts with, you will stay horrible
 
mschatz said:
i think youll have a tough time improving at all without the proper equipment. W/o a heavy bag, speedbag, and someone to spar with and work mitts with, you will stay horrible



Wrong attitude. One can always improve. Of course if you want to truly progress then yes, you need people to train with.
 
jrocc said:
yeah, you won't need those joints for long anyway
Agreed. Don't take the dumbbell advice, unless you are going slow and controlled.

Plus, try clapping push-ups. Plyometrics help with explosiveness.
 
General consensus is that punching power is 90% technique: push-ups, benchpresses, etc will build some of the relevant muscles, and that certainly won't hurt, but in terms of overall improvement, improving your skills is going to do a lot more for you than time in the gym.

Oh, and don't shadowbox with weights. I have yet to hear of anyone who's said that it's improved their power or technique a damned bit, and several who have said that it's done a number on their shoulders.
 
pushups and benchpressing have nothing to do with punching power. Your punching power comes from your lats(latimus dorsi) mostly. So do work outs that work out your back. EX: Lat pull downs, pull ups, bent over row, bent over upright row.
 
Technique, a HEAVY bag (snap the punches so the bag bends in but doesn't move) and some rotational core work


85%:15% ratio, training to lifting
 
Pretty much everyone in this thread is right that it's not about strength so much as technique. I've seriously talked to clods who think doing heavy preacher curls will give them more KO power (not fighters, just gym guys).

I'm a HW and I've sparred with guys much, much smaller than I am who hit twice as hard as guys my size, because they have the technique -- they understand the physics of hitting. They have the speed and the torque and the ability to snap their punches in with hip rotation.

Strengthen your core muscles, do a lot of hip rotating calisthenics, and learn to put your body weight into your power punches. That's more important than lifting heavy .
 
boxing lessons. end of discussion really
 
Boondocksaint said:
Wrong attitude. One can always improve. Of course if you want to truly progress then yes, you need people to train with.


Yeah, being realistic is the wrong attitude. Please. If i go one week just working the floor w/o sparring, i am amazed at how many bad habits ive picked up the next time i move with someone. For you to tell a beginner that he just needs the right attitude w/ no instruction or even basic equipment that hes going to improve is ridiculous.

also, explain to me the difference between "improving" and "truly progresing":icon_lol:
 
scat_mann said:
pushups and benchpressing have nothing to do with punching power. Your punching power comes from your lats(latimus dorsi) mostly. So do work outs that work out your back. EX: Lat pull downs, pull ups, bent over row, bent over upright row.

Right, pushing motions are completely supported by the back. Little known to most fighters, the pectoral muscles are actually vestigial, like an appendix, or nipples.
 
xinster said:
Right, pushing motions are completely supported by the back. Little known to most fighters, the pectoral muscles are actually vestigial, like an appendix, or nipples.

Last time I checked punching wasn't a pushing motion where my chest is perfectly aligned with my fists. Do you punch like you do dumbell bench presses because if you do, your a retard. When you punch or when I punch i tend to pivit and step in with my toes. Putting body into my hits, coming from my back.
 
You are right to say that a punch requires back muscles, but if you don't think it requires a pushing motion you are dead wrong. Think of what you are doing with a punch, you are pushing your hand out with a pushing motion, as well as steping forward (jabs/crosses), and twisting with your body. A good punch requires a good push of the hand, body twist, and forward step. Think of how hard you would hit with a punch if your arm was already extended prior to throwing the punch.
 
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