I'm happy I stumbled across this thread. I was drinking a diet pepsi at work and some girl from work printed out a 6 page report about how dangerous aspartame is and how it leads to death and cancer and every other disease out there. I'm definitely using that 600 cans to 1 orange fact today, thanks
I cannot stand when people try and pull that kind of shit on me...nothing makes me happier than proving those idiots wrong after they bring shit up like that...
Wolverine said:As I already stated:
"... fruits that contain methanol will also always contain ethanol and pectin which prevents methanol from turning into formaldehyde (and formic acid in some cases). "
So you got nothing to worry about with Oranges, or any fruit that has methanol in it. KK was just trying to make a point.
Division of Cancer Control and Population Sciences, National Cancer Institute, 6130 Executive Boulevard, EPN 4005, Rockville, MD 20852-7344, USA.
BACKGROUND: In a few animal experiments, aspartame has been linked to hematopoietic and brain cancers. Most animal studies have found no increase in the risk of these or other cancers. Data on humans are sparse for either cancer. Concern lingers regarding this widely used artificial sweetener. OBJECTIVE: We investigated prospectively whether aspartame consumption is associated with the risk of hematopoietic cancers or gliomas (malignant brain cancer). METHODS: We examined 285,079 men and 188,905 women ages 50 to 71 years in the NIH-AARP Diet and Health Study cohort. Daily aspartame intake was derived from responses to a baseline self-administered food frequency questionnaire that queried consumption of four aspartame-containing beverages (soda, fruit drinks, sweetened iced tea, and aspartame added to hot coffee and tea) during the past year. Histologically confirmed incident cancers were identified from eight state cancer registries. Multivariable-adjusted relative risks (RR) and 95% confidence intervals (CI) were estimated using Cox proportional hazards regression that adjusted for age, sex, ethnicity, body mass index, and history of diabetes. RESULTS: During over 5 years of follow-up (1995-2000), 1,888 hematopoietic cancers and 315 malignant gliomas were ascertained. Higher levels of aspartame intake were not associated with the risk of overall hematopoietic cancer (RR for >/=600 mg/d, 0.98; 95% CI, 0.76-1.27), glioma (RR for >/=400 mg/d, 0.73; 95% CI, 0.46-1.15; P for inverse linear trend = 0.05), or their subtypes in men and women. CONCLUSIONS: Our findings do not support the hypothesis that aspartame increases hematopoietic or brain cancer risk.
What's laughable about your post is you discredit people for "not looking into the science of it"...then in the very next paragraph you go on to advise against people whose degrees indicate a certain amount of credibility in precisely that.
I don't understand your point here, what advice did i give in my previous post?
As for Doctors, why would anyone instantly trust them? They are paid by pharmaceutical companies to push their products FFS! This obviously isn't bad in all cases but a great example is people turning up to their GP with a slight niggling injury and instantly being stuck on pain killers. What the fuck happened to dealing with the cause of the problem?!
So while it may not cause cancer, it seems that there are numerous other potential side effects that may not have been properly researched as of yet. I find it hard to see how it can 100% be declared 'safe', when there are still numerous possible contraindications to its use floating about.
I don't understand this crusade for aspartame and diet Coke. Why would you even care ??
You say i WANT to believe something's wrong, yet i said in my first post that i'm neither for or against the use of Aspartame so how do you come to that conclusion?!
I still do not see where you are coming from regarding the doctors. I'm talking about real life examples here, not just studies. A friend of mine went to a doctor as they were having a pretty shitty time and was prescribed Prozac straight away. I told them no to depend on drugs and instead got them to come train with me, eat better, sleep better etc and lo and behold, they are now back to their normal selves without even the slightest sniff of an anti-depressant. They're also 10x fitter for actually doing something other than sitting on their arse in front of the TV at night!
Same with my dad, was prescribed pain killers for lower back pain yet funnily enough i get him to work on strength and flexibility and he has no need for the drugs any more. I'm not working miracles, just using a bit of common sense.
I feel obligated to TTT this because I have something to say.
I just read Natural Cures 'They' Don't Want You to Know About and in it, it states how harmful asparatame is. It is addicting, it makes you more hungry, it makes you bloated, and continued drinking of diet soda does form a physical addiction.
Kevin Tredeau (spelling?) absolutely 100% has NOTHING TO GAIN from the truths he is telling in his book. He does not invest in any vitamin companies or anything like that, he does not advertise certain brands to take, etc. His information is unbiased and being attacked by the FDA because his research is showing people how to live without prescription drugs and non-prescription drugs. Therefore, his research is very harmful to the pharmaceuitical industry, which is directly linked to the FDA. That is why he is being attacked by the FDA.
My point is, while I 100% respect and 99% listen to what KK preaches, I have to disagree on this subject, this is my 1% of resistence.
We don't know if the study KK refers to was funded by the FDA (the most corrupt government agency in the world), or Coca-Cola, Pepsico, McDonalds, etc. The information in that research could be biased, and YES, there could be profit made by the results of their testing. Much more profit than could be made by saying asparatame is bad for you.
I am not preaching the drinking of normal soda. Hell, don't drink anything but water, man. But I would rather have an occasional Coke or applejuice than a diet soda.
I honestly believe diet soda was made to make people more fat, therefore making people drink more diet soda, and eventually giving them health problems. Health problems only the "Prescription Drug World" can handle.
The problem is if you go the the doctor and say gee doctor I am depressed his only option is to prescribe anti-depressants because 90% of the people that he tells to eat better, exercise, and sleep better won't do one of those things. People are generally lazy.