proud of taps in practice?

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I took a month off for a broken rib, and had my 1st day back yesterday. I tapped this kid, who I have about 50 lbs on him , but he has TONS more technique than me, and is the son of a WELL KNOWN BJJ teacher. He tapped me 3 times, and I tapped him twice.

I was proud of it, because he usually taps the shit outta me, but my question is, should I be proud? I AM alot bigger. Or did I just make a kid tap out?
 
you should always be proud when you perform well. but i think you know that your taps shouldnt be the basis to determine how "good" you are.
 
i think u should be more proud of the fact that you returned then the fact that your tapping people again.
 
Couple of things - 1) sure, be proud. I think most of us are proud of good taps - this is a guy that you have had a lot of trouble with in the past and you came out close to even. That's great. 2) Fifty pounds is a big difference, but it's not 100lbs. 3) possible qualifier - when you say "kid", what exactly do you mean?
 
I can't say that I ever get really proud of my performance in the gym, but if I feel that I'm doing well I do get a sense of satisfaction that I may not usualy get out of class. As long as it's not too much pride, it's certainly healthy. If nothing else, it raises your standards for yourself.
By the way, congrats on getting back on the mat. Take care of yourself, though.
 
Because I still new to the game, I still judge the quality of my sparring sessions, in part, by subs. I never let it get to my head and if I fail at an attempt I research and come back the next day and do it right. But, it feels good to pull off a good sub considering I am usually the one tapping out. Congrats but continue to keep it real and don't assume you will own him next time, earn it!
 
I only take pride in taps I know I performed well. Granted I'm only a few months into training, if it was an easy tap its no big deal to me. But if I fought hard and I earned that tap, and I had to think my way through then I'm proud.
 
It is not as impresive to tap someone who you have 50 pounds on that a person who weighs 50 pounds less than you taps you out. Its kind of easy to overpower people who you are far heavier than.

I know this cause at 155 pounds im the lightest fighter in my school, I have tapped simply cause a 285 pound dude puts a knee in my stomach and no one gives it a second thought, but when I roll with guys who outweigh me by 100 pounds and I make them tap everyone notices that cause no one can argue that when a lighter dude submits a person who outweighs him by a lot, it could only be acomplished by sheer technique and not by overpowering.
 
Depends what you tapped him with, and also depends what he was doing.

I have tapped my main MMA/grappling coach with a toehold 3 times. I have only taken about 2 gi classes for BJJ. He has held a purple belt for several years and is pretty close to getting into the UFC. But I don't get proud about this, because it's just rolling in the gym, plus it's a leglock. I can only catch him with that move because if I even TRY to engage in the BJJ game with him (positioning and guard passes), he wipes the mat with me. So my point here is if you're catching a BJJ guy with a move predominantly used in other forms of grappling (not saying he's a "BJJ guy" or that BJJ doesn't have toeholds), you have the suprise factor working for you.

On the flip side, I have been tapped by people, both heavier and lighter than me, who I have much better technique than. The main reason is because in the gym, I always go for moves, and never stay still. It's not a competition, so why should I be conservative? I go for crazy shit, and try to work out of any position I'm in. This is especially when I'm much more technical than my partner. So every once in a while, I get a little bit too lax, and I get a wake up call with a basic kimura or something.

Sure, give yourself a little pat on the back, but the absolute last thing you should ever do in the gym is think "I'm better" or "I'm the best." I DO think you should be thinking "Hey, I'm really good at this," because a confident attitude leads to more productive workouts. But never accept your performance in the gym as an accomplishment. This is for 3 reasons:

1) You'll hold on to "victories" in the gym, possibly preventing you from entering actual competitions or rolling with harder partners because you don't want to ruin the ego you built on the mat. (If you haven't competed, IMO, you haven't really achieved anything, and if you're not getting your ass kicked, you're not getting better)

2) You'll ease up too much on your training, because you assume you're already good.

3) You'll be too emotionally attached to whether or not you "win" in training, preventing you from ever really taking a risk to learn more.

Be proud, but be realistic. You had 50 pounds on the kid, and most likely, he wasn't playing all that conservative. Nice job, and keep up the good work, but find someone who's at your weight, or heavier, who can beat you the majority of the time.
 
Yes you should be proud. Anytime you tap someone who is above you in skill level it is a accomplishment.

I took 5 years off and came back and after 5 months am getting dangerous again. Sometimes, time off really helps improve your game. I am taking 10 days off due to work, but I have been training my balls off for 5 months and my old body can use some rest.
 
It all really depends on the situation.
We have a black belt at my gym whom I've tapped a couple of times and it's more or less 'cause he's trying some crazy shit or 'cause he's letting me do it.
Those really don't mean shit 'cause he'd kill me in a fight.
A brown belt at our gym never ever ever gives out taps and fights for dear life everytime we roll. If I ever sub him it'll be for real and something to be proud of since I'd have to really implement my best game both physically and technically to do so. He's subbed me like a thousand times so it's not a question of me being better than him, it's a question of me progressing to a level where I'm able to get the rare submission on him.
Tapping people either less skilled or equally or better skilled but physically so much smaller it makes up for the skill disparity isn't much to boast about unless you did it in a spectacular way. ( Flying triangle or some shit. )
When my fat ass ever gets the triangle from guard with my short, fat legs I'm gonna celebrate though. :)
 
Its ok to have occasional pats on the back, but it should all be fleeting, much like your failures.

Checking ego at the door goes both ways. Not just when you lose.

- J.
 
i'm always get a great feeling of satisfaction out of getting taps. Does anyone else here try to not use as much muscle (say 65% vs 85%) when they roll with someone much smaller?
 
The thing about taps in practice is you never really know if the person is going full out.. because it really doesn't mean anything... So feel good that you tapped him, but it really doesn't mean much.. I cantap lighter guys at my skill level fairly easily, but when I roll with someone my size or bigger and they compliment me on my skill that is when I feel good.. even if I get tapped
 
you need to think of the definition of what it really means to be proud.
 
Its ok to take pride in those things. Next objective is to try to be more technical
 
as everyone else pretty much said, give yourself a pat on the back, you accomplished something you don't usually do. Just keep in mind there will always be people you tap, and always people who tap you. or as other people say "check your ego"
 
imo, no, you should not be proud of beating this kid. You weigh 50lbs more than him and he is still tapping you out with technique. The fact that you are using mainly your weight against him to make him tap out and wondering if you should be proud of that is ignorant.
 
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