Opinion Proof that criticism of the Israeli lobby, is defended by the lie of anti-semitism

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    Lol they wish they did.
     
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    sure.
     
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    russia and china are not allies though
     
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    Lol. I stopped at Glenn Greenwald
     
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    Sounds reasonable, no?
     
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    I like that comment, one of his more insightful quips (though it goes a bit far, it's not "pure" antisemitism). This subject sucks because it's really hard to figure out who is hiding their antisemitism behind "criticizing Israel," and it's equally tricky to call out the intentions of Israelis who use this dynamic as a weapon, but that's a fairly reliable test.
     
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    The US itself was involved with those people as much as Saudi Arabia was.
     
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    Niether are Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    If you think they are, you understand nothing of hard power. The UK and Europe isn't even our ally. We have relationships that mutually benefit both sides, and when they don't, we go to battle.

    Look at the transatlantic trade negotiations. Was Europe and the US allies then, or was everyone acting in their own best interests?

    There are no friends and allies in world politics, only mutually beneficial agreements. Sadly, Israel more then any other country, brings nothing to the table, but problems.
     
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    I really don't understand.

    Where is the anti-semitic part?

    Explain to me how you are supposed to interpret AIPAC's work?

    Is it anti-semitic to just point out that AIPAC exist and what they literally do?
     
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    Ha!!!!!!!!! Couldn't make this up.

    PRO-ISRAEL LOBBY CAUGHT ON TAPE BOASTING THAT ITS MONEY INFLUENCES WASHINGTON

    A DEBATE ABOUT the power in Washington of the pro-Israel lobby is underway, after Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., responded sharply to reports that Republican leader Kevin McCarthy was targeting both Omar and fellow Muslim Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat from Michigan.

    Omar quoted rap lyrics — “It’s all about the Benjamins baby” — to suggest McCarthy’s move was driven by the lobby’s prolific spending. Asked specifically who she was referring to, Omar responded, “AIPAC!”

    The debate over the influence of pro-Israel groups could be informed by an investigation by Al Jazeera, in which an undercover reporter infiltrated The Israel Project, a Washington-based group, and secretly recorded conversations about political strategy and influence over a six-month period in 2016. That investigation, however, was never aired by the network — suppressed by pressure from the pro-Israel lobby.

    In November, Electronic Intifada obtained and published the four-part series, but it did so during the week of the midterm elections, and the documentary did not get a lot of attention then.

    In it, leaders of the pro-Israel lobby speak openly about how they use money to influence the political process, in ways so blunt that if the comments were made by critics, they’d be charged with anti-Semitism.

    “Congressmen and senators don’t do anything unless you pressure them.”
    David Ochs, founder of HaLev, which helps send young people to AIPAC’s annual conference, described for the reporter how AIPAC and its donors organize fundraisers outside the official umbrella of the organization, so that the money doesn’t show up on disclosures as coming specifically from AIPAC. He describes one group that organizes fundraisers in both Washington and New York. “This is the biggest ad hoc political group, definitely the wealthiest, in D.C.,” Ochs says, adding that it has no official name, but is clearly tied to AIPAC. “It’s the AIPAC group. It makes a difference, it really, really does. It’s the best bang for your buck and the networking is phenomenal.” (Ochs and AIPAC did not immediately return The Intercept’s requests for comment.)

    Without spending money, Ochs argues, the pro-Israel lobby isn’t able to enact its agenda. “Congressmen and senators don’t do anything unless you pressure them. They kick the can down the road, unless you pressure them, and the only way to do that is with money,” he explains.




    https://theintercept.com/2019/02/11/ilhan-omar-israel-lobby-documentary/
     
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    I'm with Ilhan on this one, she's getting bullied.
     
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    It's so ridiculous. People ask what people are talking about with fake news. Look at this story. Look at the tusli Gabbard propaganda.

    They are bold faced fucking liars. Fuck the media.

    Trump loves fake news. He just doesn't like the fake news that is mean to him.
     
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    he never praised the shooting. little has always called for a non violent solution
     

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