Media Proof Jon Jones is not the GOAT

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  1. Mangar

    Mangar Brown Belt

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    Saw this on reddit and it beautifully shows why Fedor, not Jones is the clear GOAT. Dude is literally on top for half the video.

     
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    Lukn4trbl Brown Belt

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    Jones took PEDs.

    Cannot be the GOAT

    /End Thread
     
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  3. Prince Nephilim

    Prince Nephilim Black Belt

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    Fedor hasn't beat half the competition Jon Jones has and that's just facts

    Nobody..NOBODY has beat those many ex champions and title contenders back to back like that.

    Fedor and GSP have tapped. Jones has never been finished or submitted WHILE facing the best in the best organization.

    It's not even a discussion.
     
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  4. Fatback96

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    Jones lost to a mid level MW and also took PED’s. He can’t be considered the GOAT.
     
  5. Kenny Powerth

    Kenny Powerth Jean Belt (Jelt)

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    Fedor is the GOAT, we already knew this.
     
  6. puppybird

    puppybird the wasteland champ

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    I had no idea Semmy Schilt was once considered top p4p MMA fighter.

    shows how worthless the concept of P4P really is lol.
     
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    Its very much a discussion lol

    Jones beat ex champions when the top of that division was old, WHILE ON STEROIDS.
    You left that part out conveniently.
    On that point, theres no room for assumptions, if you're gonna say fedor was on the juice, show me a failed test result. I know the ordeal with pride and their polices, that means dick. Show me a failed test
     
  8. John makfresshi

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    Mma was far from as established when fedor was fighting xans in Japan. Jon is better as. a fighter, has faced better competition, is undefeated, and would annihilate Fedor h2h
     
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  9. saffo

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    Are you trolling? Jon never lost.
     
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    Cool to see my boy Lyoto Machida reach #4 and hang out in the top 10 for a long time.

    Another fav of mine Bas Rutten was up there for a loooong ass time as well, just as long as Fedor I think.

    Wondering if anyone still remembers Noboru Asahi, the original Shooto / MMA P4P GOAT? :D
     
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  11. Clear Winner

    Clear Winner Big Poppa Pars

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    "Literally"? Are you like one of those dumb teenage girls that says literally for everything? Fedor was on top from about 3 mins to 5 minutes and 5 seconds. That's way less than half and not too much more than Jon WHO IS STILL ACTIVE AND STILL No1 P4P.
     
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    Yeah I was bored lol just like how Khabib “lost” to Tibau.
     
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    The fuck are you talking about? Hes on top for a little over two minutes of the vid, not "half the vid". Hes on top like 30 seconds longer than Jones. Why is this YouTube vid "proof" of anything other than opinion?
     
  14. orca

    orca P4P #1 Machida fan

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    So u mean jon jones is the only cheater during pre usada era? He beat rampage machia rashad and lots of beasts
    He beat 29 -32 years old average fighters

    You telling us they where all innocent and jon jones was the only one using?

    U also believe pride fighters are clean too huh?
    The pride of russia is clean
    u believe santa is real too?
    What a joke
     
  15. NationWideNinja

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    I hate Jones, and I love Fedor, but sometimes you just gotta be real.

    How long Jones has remained unbeaten, the amount of legit dudes he beat, how he's never been rocked or knocked down and almost never is in trouble in fights, its pretty crazy. I mean hell, two dominant DC wins on your record is crazy in itself.
     
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    cheat toes raising hell

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    No, it doesn't.
    Fedor is still the greatest mma fighter ever though
     
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  18. saffo

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    I think it is fair that it should be called no contest since Jon did not lose and the other guy died so to call him a winner is far from the truth.
     
  19. Fatback96

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    Oh no I was talking about Santos.
     
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  20. BJpencil

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    The guys Jones beat weren't old. They just weren't in Pride where they were able to "train" however they wanted to. It's funny how all the Pride fighters looked so much and fought so much different in the U.S. If you need a failed test to understand what was happening in Pride or in other organizations currently you just aren't that bright. Maybe you are smart but are just in exreme denial.
     
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