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There should be a time limit/ fight limit on fighting ammy.... Maybe a year or two or like 5 fights and you should have to go pro.
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Like this guy... Fighting amateur for 3 years with almost a dozen fights and representing yourself as a professional to your students is ridiculous. In this fight, for example, Bordi had twice Peterson's experience and that just shouldn't happen in your amateur career.
What's the point of making a profession out of amateur fighting? Oh, so you can call yourself a MMA fighter and get students who want to be professional fighters. Well, you're not really equipped to train them when you haven't even fought a full round or under pro rules.
I currently live and train in Manteca, CA where Vincent Bordi is from. I train with the only professional fighters in town at our Cesar Gracie affiliate at MVP Martial Sports. They have fought on Strikeforce cards, internationally, and we travel to our other affiliates and train with the highest level fighters possible. People come to us from Cortez Martial Arts where Bordi is the top guy and start training with us because of our vastly superior jiu-jitsu and MMA training. Those students are always surprised when they find out that difference is because our guys are professionals because they never even realized Bordi and the other fighters at his gym are amateurs.
This is a small town and I hear the weirdest shit... like "Vincent was offered a UFC contract and turned it down." Why would the UFC offer a random decision winning amateur a UFC contract and why would he turn it down? I assume this rumor came from another misrepresentation.
I digress, Bordi isn't the only one who seems to like being a big fish in little water.... the point is, should fighters be able to fight amateur indefinitely? Or should there be some type of limit?
I think the limit would help another problem we have here in Cali which is promoters offering an abundance of amateur fights because they don't cost them anything and making it hard for pro bouts on smaller show's cards hard to come by. There are even quite a few shows that put on all amateur cards these days and it's because professional amateurs such as Bordi are available to be the main event.
Then, amateurs like Bordi make all their money off of teaching since they don't make it fighting. Meanwhile, the more talented guys who are fighting pro and aspiring towards the top level of MMA don't have as much time to teach and lose what students they could have to watered down misrepresentations of fighters and suddenly everyone is paying for mediocre instruction.
I digress again.
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Like this guy... Fighting amateur for 3 years with almost a dozen fights and representing yourself as a professional to your students is ridiculous. In this fight, for example, Bordi had twice Peterson's experience and that just shouldn't happen in your amateur career.
What's the point of making a profession out of amateur fighting? Oh, so you can call yourself a MMA fighter and get students who want to be professional fighters. Well, you're not really equipped to train them when you haven't even fought a full round or under pro rules.
I currently live and train in Manteca, CA where Vincent Bordi is from. I train with the only professional fighters in town at our Cesar Gracie affiliate at MVP Martial Sports. They have fought on Strikeforce cards, internationally, and we travel to our other affiliates and train with the highest level fighters possible. People come to us from Cortez Martial Arts where Bordi is the top guy and start training with us because of our vastly superior jiu-jitsu and MMA training. Those students are always surprised when they find out that difference is because our guys are professionals because they never even realized Bordi and the other fighters at his gym are amateurs.
This is a small town and I hear the weirdest shit... like "Vincent was offered a UFC contract and turned it down." Why would the UFC offer a random decision winning amateur a UFC contract and why would he turn it down? I assume this rumor came from another misrepresentation.
I digress, Bordi isn't the only one who seems to like being a big fish in little water.... the point is, should fighters be able to fight amateur indefinitely? Or should there be some type of limit?
I think the limit would help another problem we have here in Cali which is promoters offering an abundance of amateur fights because they don't cost them anything and making it hard for pro bouts on smaller show's cards hard to come by. There are even quite a few shows that put on all amateur cards these days and it's because professional amateurs such as Bordi are available to be the main event.
Then, amateurs like Bordi make all their money off of teaching since they don't make it fighting. Meanwhile, the more talented guys who are fighting pro and aspiring towards the top level of MMA don't have as much time to teach and lose what students they could have to watered down misrepresentations of fighters and suddenly everyone is paying for mediocre instruction.
I digress again.