Discussion in 'Pro Wrestling Discussion' started by Y2Khaos, Jun 12, 2020.
CM Punk in MMA...nuff said
I think Shinsuke Nakamura probably had the best record. Katsuyori Shibata got chewed up and spit out, which was a shame since everything about him screams bad ass shoot fighter.
edit: Nevermind, just saw Bobby Lashley's record. Holy shit.
Geez. Being married to Jackie Gayda and all them kids took a toll on Haas. He looks like hell.
Lashley lost everytime he fought someone with a pulse. Not bad tho for a pro wrestler, and if he focused more on it he would have been better in MMA
That's the issue with doing both. You can't dedicate enough time to either, and end up struggling to keep up.
Alberto Del Rio
Yuji Nagata, ace of NJPW and king of the G1 tournament. Only had two legit fights, going against prime Cro Cop and prime Fedor. Let's see how that went:
Thread makes me want a Taka vs. Punk fight, just for the visual of Taka beating the shit out of Punk
I still feel sorry for Nagata. Inoki threw him to the wolves. Its like Vince having Roman fight Stipe and Bones Jones back to to back.
Nagata's MMA career lasted less than two minutes. He had no business even being on the same card as Fedor or Cro Cop, let alone being in the same ring as them. Fucking Inoki and his obsession with pushing wrestlers into shoots. Liger got smashed too, competing with his damn mask on.
Fucked Nagata's pro-wrestling career up too, as who could take him seriously as a headliner after seeing him get wrecked in seconds? The fact that he was a complete novice going up against two of the most brutal killer heavyweights ever didn't matter, just that New Japan's heavyweight ace got starched.
Inoki basically told him "You've got an amateur wrestling background, you'll be fine"...Not against Fedor and Cro Cop he won't. Inoki put the IWGP heavyweight belt on Fujita like a year afterwards, simply because he gave Fedor a fight, even though he sucked as a prowrestler.
the whole locker room just competed at shanes underground, pal
Inoki had lost the plot by this point. Seeing him pushed out of the company he founded was sad, but necessary, otherwise New Japan was going under. Pro wrestling and pro fighting are not the same thing.
I used to be a big Inoki mark because of the whole "Strong-Style" aspect and how he tried to prove not all pro wrestlers were "fake fighters" but looking back it was obvious he lost his mind and was extremely egotistical too acknowledge his faults. You would think Inoki would have been happy how promotions like Pancrase founded by pro wrestlers like Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki or the success of Kazushi Sakuraba proved his "philosophy" of pro wrestlers being able to fight correct (in a time when a lot of people were ignorant of Catch Wrestling and the old school era of people like Lou Thesz) but no, instead it's been reported he was jealous and had negatives opinions on Pancrase.
It's really no mystery why Mutoh jumped ship when he did. Inoki would have been all over him because of his judo background, no matter that Mutoh was 15 years out of competition and that his knees were basically beef jerky by that point.
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