Prime Tyson was not always guns blazing first round

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  1. spacetime

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    I'm curious what your take is on why that is.

    Some fights he went out super aggressive, others he kind a fought like any boxer and took his time. A little bit of head hunting here and there but not nothing out of the ordinary.

    Like in this fight.

    Is it the size of the opponent, respect before hand, or why do you think Tyson had varying degrees of early aggression in first rounds depending on who'm he fought?

     
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    Yacob I'm sometimes compared to Jack Johnson

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    On this same show, Julian The Hawk Jackson had a knockout just minutes before this fight


    A little piece of useless trivia i thought some may appreciate....
     
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    Mitch Green was a good Hw prospect and wasn’t intimidated. He was throwing to hurt Tyson- and I think Tyson lost a tooth if I’m thinking of the right fight.

    I suspect Tyson could sense who came to fight and who wanted no part of it.
     
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    Gotta be. Same with Tillis, Bonecrusher Smith, Tucker..
     
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    I always thought Mitch Green was underrated. He put on a really good show against Tyson and was not intimidated one bit.
     
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    Cool. I know Julian said at one point in his prime that he hits harder than Tyson, though he later admitted it was just hyping
     
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    I bet he did hit harder than some of the heavyweights with good ko percentages though


    He wasn't exactly a small person
     
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    I would love to know. Yeah he's not small
     
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    Gerald McClellan quite possibly hit harder than Julian too
     
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    I used to think that but not anymore. I mean he had more body shot Ko's though...

    Julian and Gerald definitely hit harder than Tyson if they had moved up to HW.
     
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    Some of Geralds best hits were huge right hands to the face...he was a good body puncher though. You not confusing him with Mccallum are you?


    Thing about Tyson is he was the same height/length basically as Jackson and he only weighed around 210ish in his prime.....

    So no......they wouldn't hit nearly as hard as Tyson at heavyweight. It's not like James Toney gained a ton of power as he moved up, he just had the hand speed advantage all the time and pecked away
     
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    Nah dude, listen here. When Julian Jackson in his prime landed just one clean punch, they frooze. The difference in impact comparing his KO's to Tyson are substantial..

    There is no doubt in my mind that Jackson is a harder pound for pound puncher than Tyson. Tyson would slaughter him though for other reasons
     
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    I believe throwing the term "p4p" in there derails the discussion because Yacob is saying going up in weight doesn't necessarily equate a significant gain in power
     
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    Mitch green was pretty talented actually. Even if he was insane
     
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    He caught Tyson on the street, started jawing and got cracked for his trouble and looked like someone had hit him in the jaw with a bat, right?

    Totally going from memory, and it's always a bad idea nowadays. But I thought something like that went down one night.
     
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    I don't really think so but he at least wasn't someone you could just put away.
     
  17. spacetime

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    Then why have weight classes....
     
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    Is this a real question? There's a difference being at your natural weightclass which is appropriate for your body-size and gaining some pounds just to compete in a heavier division.
     
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    Back to the original question... if hand speed does not decrease going up in weight, power can only go one way... And there is very little evidence that hand speed does decrease going up in weight
     
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    Mitch wanted a rematch and was talking shut. They squared up and He got cracked. Didn’t go down I believe
     
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