Prime HW GOAT, imo not Stipe.

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  1. BoTyson You will not shrink me gypsy, I have your tears

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    People always say 'Stipe is the HW GOAT' 'Stipe is better than Cain' 'Stipe is better than Fedor' etc etc… which is possibly true if they were to fight right now, I mean Stipe would be the favourite against either but could lose either fight also.

    But I think this GOAT Stipe people speak of would have got smashed by either of them in their primes, the Cain that was smashing everyone would have made short work of him imo, and there is really nothing Stipe has done to prove otherwise.

    Stipe is a top HW, but I don't think hes better than Cormier or these guys.

    Who do you rank the true HW GOAT? ignoring the parts where they declined through age or injurys?

    I rank them like this.

    1. Fedor
    2. Cain Velasquez
    3. Daniel Cormier
    4. Stipe Miocic
    5. Could be a lot of diff guys with arguments for each, former champs like Randy, Sylvia, Brock, Carwin, Mir, JDS, BIg Nog, Werdum, guys who have consistently won like Overeem, Kharitonov, Barnett, Arlovski, Ngannou, but no clear guy near the 4th spot.
     
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    Stipe with Wilders athlecism would trash Fedor.
     
  3. arcadeperfect Brown Belt

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    JDS deserves a mention. Look at his resume, he had a great streak during his prime and has had nothing but hard fights in the UFC. Cain on the other hand is overrated considering he was finished in all his losses and only had JDS as a top quality win.
     
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    Yeah you are right there, totally slipped my mind, Big Nog also.
     
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    GOAT is resume. It's about longevity

    Fedor
    Werdum
    Stipe

    Cormier isn't top5
     
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    Stipe's boxing and wrestling background would've caused massive issues for Cain. Cain's flaw was always his poor striking defense. Back in the day I predicted that Stipe would be the one to dethrone Cain. Sad that fight never happened.
     
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    Stupid argument from a shitposter.
     
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    You rank Werdum over Cain? I know he beat him but Cain would wreck people.
     
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    When Stipe gave JDS a hard time in the first fight, I thought he did a good Cain impression.

    Cain and Stipe were/are both chinny, Cain is just more relentless.
     
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    Fedor would kill Stipe, but with Wilders athlecism ... jesus ... he would trash Fedor.
     
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    No, TS, people don't say always this. As a matter of fact, few people consider Stipe the HW Goat.
    Fedor has a bigger fan base, probably even DC has more fans than Stipe.
    There were so many people here that wanted Stipe to get KOd by Ngannou, you believed Sherdog was Black fucking Panters.
    You just needed some motivation to create another GOAT thread. Good for you!
     
  12. BoTyson You will not shrink me gypsy, I have your tears

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    Just read in the last thread that I read twice, snowflake.
     
  13. ImNotMirsadBektic NOT the future FW champ

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    Stipe is a better striker than Cain and Fedor and stuffs their TD's.
     
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    Which is a retarded argument. Fedor with Alek's body would beat Stipe and DC back to back.


    See? Dumb. Stipe isn't athletic like Wilder, so why even argue it?
     
  15. BoTyson You will not shrink me gypsy, I have your tears

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    Wilder's only athletic bone is in his right arm, the rest of him is a match stick boxer wrapped up like a Ferrero roche.
     
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    loool

    Wilder is probably the most gifted HW boxer ever.
     
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    Fedor in his prime was a much better striker than Stipe "Block Punches With My Face" Miocic.
     
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    What does 'gifted' mean?
     
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    Cain's resume isn't long enough. He doesn't have the top ten wins that werdum does.

    Cain may have had a higher peak but he doesn't have enough fights

    Side note- I would bet on Cain beating more fighters than werdum, prime for prime, but that's something different
     
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    WTF? have you seen him box? he just loses until he lands a hard punch, gift wise hes not even top 10, power wise hes +10 everyone else
     
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    Hes super fast for his size, explosive as fuck, with unreal KO power in both hands and Wilder never seems to lose his power or speed through 12 rounds.

    + good looking guy.

    He is the whole package.

    Guys like Tyson etc. were athletic, but ugly and mental midgets.

    Wilder and Joshua = new breed of HW
     

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