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Prime for prime I still think tony beats Khabib

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  1. Askren’s chin Banned Banned

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    Tony would be quicker and that would allow him to defend the take downs

    on the feet his striking and pressure >>>> khabibs

    chin>>>> khabibs chin

    on the mat tony would cut him up with elbows and maybe tap him

    his cardio would allow him to do this for 5 rounds easy

    Opinions?
     
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  2. gaffbyknees2 Purple Belt

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    Read my analysis
     
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  4. gaffbyknees2 Purple Belt

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    I did. You're dumb.
     
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    Khabib would not hesitate to remove his arm or leg unlike Charles and Beniel,so no Tony would lose in ugly fashion!
     
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    Charles is a better grappler than khabib
     
  8. 13Seconds Gold Belt

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    People laugh now but 2017 Tony vs 2017 Khabib would've been crazy. Tiramisu Khabib was not the final form Khabib, and that was Tonys chance.
     
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    Having seen the last few fights, I now think there's absolutely no chance Tony would have beaten Khabib and I don't think it would even have been competitive if I'm being honest.
     
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    Idk about that. I never really gave Tony much of a chance against Khabib. Oliveira though would have a legit shot.
     
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    No one ever said Tonys path to beat Khabib is by stopping his takedowns.

    Tony subbed Lee.
     
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    Having seen Chuck Liddel's last four fights, there's no way he would have ever beaten Tito Ortiz. Tito would have knocked Chuck out every single time, based on Chuck's last few fights.
     
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  13. TARTARA Green Belt

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    Khabib has 10 Cancelled Bouts,
    4 of them was with Tony,
    a GOATy record for sure!
    [​IMG]
     
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    I think nobody in the lightweight division can beat Khabib. Dude was getting better and better so sadly we'll never see Khabibs final form
     
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    Guy who basically tapped to strikes against Felder.. and has been subbed by multiple others.. is a better grappler than Khabib ?

    No.

    [​IMG]
     
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    That's different, Chuck's style was reliant on his chin. Tony's chin hasn't cracked, but he has fought two fighters in a row with good top control/BJJ and hasn't been able to get out of positions.
     
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    I think majority of time of the they were matched up Khabib would've won. That being said I think Tony's best chances is when they were matched up in 2015, 2016 and 2017. That was Prime Ferguson before he fucked up his knee.
    During those 3 years Khabib had a lot of trouble in terms of making weight(which could've caused cardio issues) and his striking was nowhere near the level it was when he became champ.
    I think 2018-2020 Khabib annihilates most all versions of Tony, you need a special type of fighter to beat that version.
    Tony's best chance was catching a green Khabib whilst being in his prime.
     
  18. Mga223 Steel Belt

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    He's sorta right though...
     
  19. moreorless87 Straba

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    Not much of it is there?

    My opinion was always I felt Tony's sub grappling wasnt technical enough to threaten Khabib, not enough there in terms of misdirection or being able to pull off sub/sweeps quickly to stop him being controlled to a decision.

    More generally I think he's a fighter who needed to push the pace to beat opponents but Khabib is very good at controling the pace proactively. A lot of modern MMA fighters they just expect an opponent will fight to the same slow pace they do, when Tony hunted them down they didnt really have an answer but Khabib I suspect would, Tony gets too aggressive and he ends up on his back and neutralized.

    Both guys I think exploited declining standards of sub grappling in MMA, opponents who depended too much on "just stand up" but those styles meeting I think favours Khabib, the guy who can potentially win via control.
     
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    This is a pointless argument since we will never know.
     

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