PPV benchmarks for UFC 190

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  1. johncola

    johncola Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    With all this talk of the social media hype for the Rousey fight, I thought it'd be interesting to speculate how well UFC 190 did on PPV, using previous PPV's as points of comparison, comparing it to previous Rousey PPV's and previous Brazil PPV's, since Brazil PPV's typically don't sell as well.

    It's said that Rousey has a bigger mainstream appeal than Conor McGregor, and that she's more well known and more famous than him, but he's more popular with the audience that actually buys PPV's, and due to this, he does bigger PPV numbers. I agree with this. Anyway, here's some benchmarks to compare UFC 190 with:

    UFC 168 (1,025,000 buys)
    Ronda's fight with Meisha Tate after TUF 18. The headliner on this event was the big Silva/Weidman rematch on the New Year's Las Vegas card, so obviously this is unfair to compare to the Bethe fight, and UFC 190 won't beat this.
    UFC 189 (950,000 buys)
    I've included this just because it's the other big UFC star's recent PPV. As well as McGregor/Mendes, the card had the Robbie/Rory title fight and was arguably a better card overall, and in Las Vegas on Independence Day weekend, again making it an unfair comparison with UFC 190. But if UFC 190's PPV buys matched the social media hype, then it'd beat UFC 189, and obviously that'd be a huge success.
    UFC 184 (590,000 buys)
    This is the first realistic goal for UFC 190 to aim to beat. This is Rousey's most recent fight against Cat Zingano and her best-selling fight. It did much better on PPV than people expected and was a big success. It was an American event at the Staples Center, so if 190 beat this then that'd be huge.
    UFC 175 (545,000 buys)
    This was Rousey's fight against Alexis Davis. It was in Las Vegas on the Independence Day weekend card, headlined by Weidman/Machida coming off Weidman's win in the Anderson Silva rematch. The fact that UFC 184 did better than UFC 175 just speaks to how successful UFC 184 was. UFC should be very happy if they can beat 545k buys with UFC 190.
    UFC 157 (450,000 buys)
    This was Ronda's debut against Liz Carmouche, co-headlined by Machida/Hendo. There was a lot of hype for this event because it was the first women's fight in the UFC. It was at the Honda Center in Anaheim. While this did fewer buys than 175 and 184, it'd still be good if UFC 190 could beat this number. I think this is the first benchmark on the list that UFC 190 has a good chance of beating.
    UFC 153 (410,000 buys)
    This is the best-selling PPV that has taken place in Brazil. If Ronda can beat 410k buys then she'd take that record. It was in Rio and headlined by the Anderson Silva showcase fight against Stephan Bonnar. The main event was originally intended to be Aldo/Koch, but an Erik Koch injury changed that to Aldo/Edgar, then Aldo got injured and they ended up doing Aldo/Edgar at a later date. The Anderson fight very likely did better than what Aldo/Koch or Aldo/Edgar would have done, which is good considering there was no title on the line. I think the UFC would be happy if UFC 190 beat this.
    UFC 170 (340,000 buys)
    This was Ronda's fight with Sara McMann, and had the Olympian vs Olympian hype on a card also featuring Daniel Cormier against injury replacement Patrick Cummins. It was in Ronda's regular late February PPV slot, but in Vegas instead of Southern California. I think this was a disappointing number at the time. Even though 190 was in Brazil, it should still aim to beat 340k and the UFC should be disappointed if it doesn't.
    UFC 134 (335,000 buys)
    This was Zuffa-owned UFC's debut in Brazil. It featured Anderson Silva vs Yushin Okami and took place after Silva/Sonnen 1 and also after Silva front kicked Vitor in the face, both of which helped raise Anderson's profile and also the popularity of the UFC in Brazil. Considering that, and also that UFC hadn't yet fallen too far from the 2008-2010 peak, I think 335k was a disappointing number. Like with UFC 170, it'll be a disappointment if UFC 190 doesn't beat this.
    UFC 142 (235,000 buys)
    This featured Aldo/Mendes 1 and took place in Rio in January wedged inbetween the New Year's and Super Bowl Las Vegas cards. It's Aldo's best selling of his three Brazil fights. Obviously Rousey is a bigger star than Aldo and should be beating these numbers.
    UFC 163 (180,000 buys)
    UFC 179 (180,000 buys)
    163 was Aldo vs Korean Zombie and 179 was Aldo vs Mendes 2. Both took place in Rio.
    UFC 147 (140,000 buys)
    This took place in Belo Horizonte, and was the only Brazilian PPV to not happen in Rio. It featured the Wanderlei Silva vs Rich Franklin rematch, and as you'd expect is the lowest-ranking fight on the list.


    So, what numbers do you think the UFC would be happy with for UFC 190, and what numbers do you think it'll do? I think they should be aiming to set the record for a Brazil PPV by beating 410k buys. They should be extremely happy if it can beat 500k buys. They should be disappointed if it fails to beat UFC 170's 340k buys. I predict about 400k buys.
     
  2. Black Joto

    Black Joto Purple Belt

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    What ever number Dana makes up - That's your number..................
     
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    Wadtucket Semi-professional hair historian Platinum Member

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    I don't trust these numbers
     
  4. johncola

    johncola Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    It's all we've got. And it's all we'll get for UFC 190 too. They're all Meltzer numbers.
     
  5. Kinku

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    Seems like sherdog only trust his numbers if it's lower than 300k
     
  6. Cold Front

    Cold Front Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Given Dana's recent hype, I'll go with more than 500K, but less than 600K.
     
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    UL no more yellows Double Yellow Card

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    Anything over 350+ is decent

    around 350-550 most likely
     
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    This card was terrible, as was Ronda's last card.

    During the early part of her career they always had a great main event for her to co-main. Now they are putting her on cards as the major draw. The fact that 184 sold over 500K is crazy. It definitely shows Ronda is a star. If the sales of this card are high it will just confirm it.
     
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    If it did 350K, I think it should be looked at as not having done well.
     
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    Seeing as how he's a known UFC shill, I don't blame anyone who doesn't accept the numbers.
     
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    Hopefully not as much as expected, card sucked.
     
  12. Cold Front

    Cold Front Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    350K is decent. The fight was in Brazil, and no other marquee matchups were on the card.

    But I suspect the card will do much better than 350K.
     
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    I'm sure it'll do as well as 184. That was a shitshow card and it still drew with Ronda headlining.
     
  14. Insaniteus

    Insaniteus Fantasy, Destiny, and Infinity

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    It'll pass half a mil, there's no way that it doesn't.

    I may not buy PPVs, but I watch every one from Buffalo Wild Wings and the crowd at my BWW was enormous! Nearly every damn one of them was there for Rousey (aside from about 4 poor saps who were cheering for Bethe). Considering that there were no other sports going on at the time and the crowd was about as big as the crowds get during college football season, that's saying a LOT for Knoxville TN. SEC football is a religion in these parts.

    Rousey's crowd at that BWW will probably be bigger than local hero OSP's crowd next week.
     
  15. skold

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    Lol, I love how people just throw out statements of certainty

    "known ufc shill"

    get real
     
  16. Timurd123

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    Not true, its a squash match, 20-1 fav, people like squash matches, but not as much as they like competitive fights, no one thought this would be competitive

    I think 400+ is good for this
    Anything over 500 is great
    600 is unreal
    I dont see how it would get to 700k
     
  17. dakimbo

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    Ummm,..he's been a JUDGE for UFC, Dana. Don't try to pretend he's not bias.
     
  18. dmtpanic

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    I'd love to see proof that Melter is paid by the ufc.
     
  19. Ashenthorn

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    We should all just make up our own numbers in that case. I say UFC 190 got eleventy billion buys. Ronda bless.
     
  20. dakimbo

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    I'll repeat:

    He's been a JUDGE for UFC, Dana.
     

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