Power Punchers will have longer Careers

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Hunto proved it again...

Fighters who rely on power and toughness will have longer competitive careers compared to fighters who rely on speed (Crocop, Fedor), Athlethicism (Randleman, Fedor, Brock) and ground wizardry (Big Nog, Fedor)

A good example of this in boxing was the great George Foreman.
 
Nick Diaz too. He can punch hard if he wanted to
 
Unless their toughness wears out, which is bound to happen after taking too many shots. Like Liddell.
 
So to be clear you think fedor and big nog didn't have long, successful careers?
 
So to be clear you think fedor and big nog didn't have long, successful careers?

Achievement wise YES they both have successful careers. But comparing their age with someone like Hunt and Hendo they went downhill early.
 
Unless their toughness wears out, which is bound to happen after taking too many shots. Like Liddell.

Well i wont consider chuck tough since he really didn't fight the Hard Hitters in his division.. Belfort (not TRT version) and Wand (Post Pride) are not good measures of that. Look what happened when he fought Rampage in Pride and UFC. Also the Shogun fight. I can't say that Chuck is really that tough compared to someone like Hendo or Shogun.
 
Yeah, Big Nog didn't rely on toughness at all:rolleyes:. You listed Fedor under all of the other things when he's a power puncher if I've ever seen one. It's not "relying on" if you can list him under all of the categories.

Leben relied on toughness and heavy hands and he dropped off and retired at 33. Brian Stann is the same, Wand is the same, Shogun is the same. You can pick any attribute and list fighters who fell apart young. You can also point to Anderson, Bisping, Machida, Werdum, Rashad and countless other who have had long, successful careers and don't rely on toughness and power punching.
 
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Of course..
Speed is the first thing to go so speed based fighters, especially HWs (who are usually on the smallest side of HW ) will have troubles once they lose some of their speed

The Iron Chin + Heavy hands combo can make wonders as long as their chin isn't cracked because they can "take one to land one" and finish the fight with one punch...


Btw Fedor was kind of a power puncher of his own, but just lacked the physical strength/speed of his early days but most of his downfall is more about fighting kind of "low IQ" in his late career
 
Right.

That power means absolutely nothing if you can't land it.

It's also kind of dumb that you mentioned guys like Cro Cop, Fedor, Big Nog, etc, when those three guys have been fighting for a very, very long time.

Cro Cop started kickboxing in 1996 and is currently still competing. He started MMA in 2001 and recently just fought in August. So what's funny about that is that Cro Cop has been a prize fighter before Mark Hunt ever started, and he's still competing in Kickboxing and also MMA from time to time. And you mentioned Cro Cop in the OP as if he's hung up the gloves or something.

Fedor started MMA in 2000, retired in 2012.

Big Nog started in 1999 and is still competing.


Mark Hunt started Kickboxing in 1999 and hasn't competed since 2008. He started MMA in 2004 and is still competing. He also had two pro boxing bouts, one in '98 and one in 2000.

All of their careers were started pretty close together. So, your thread actually hasn't brought light on anything whatsoever.

Being a power puncher has nothing to do with how long your career is going to play out.

It doesn't matter if you're a power puncher, a pure grappler, a guy who has tons of speed but lacks power, it all depends on what your body can take.

Alistair Overeem has been fighting since 1999 and is still competing as well. He relies mostly on his power over anything else and although he has been fighting for quite a while, his style has gotten him into some trouble and caused some speed bumps throughout his career.

The intelligent fighters are the ones who are going to have the longer careers IMO. The fighters who take very little damage will have the longest careers, but it depends. No fighter is the same, it doesn't matter if you're a power puncher or not, that makes no difference. You can be a power puncher, but if your body has simply taken too much punishment, then that's it. The human body can only take so much.

You can be a power puncher, but more importantly, you need to be smart and know how to use that power.

And I'm sure some people won't understand what this means - but there's more to fighting than actually fighting. The mental aspect is just as important as going into the ring or cage and going to war with an opponent.

The fighters with the longest careers will likely be the fighters who simply love to compete, the ones who love the sport. You can be a great fighter, you can be this amazing 'power puncher,' that you speak of, TS, but if your heart isn't in it, you aren't going to be around for very long.

Dan Severn is basically just a pure wrestler, he isn't a power puncher and he started fighting in 1994 and just recently stopped in 2012. Does this mean pure wrestlers are going to have the longest careers? no, it doesn't. It means nothing. (Even though I'm pretty sure Severn had plenty of fixed fights.)

Kazushi Sakuraba isn't a power puncher, he started in 1996 and stopped in 2011.

That being said - Hunt proved nothing in this sense.

Your thread simply doesn't work, TS.

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Yeah, Big Nog didn't rely on toughness at all:rolleyes:. You listed Fedor under all of the other things when he's a power puncher if I've ever seen one. It's not "relying on" if you can list him under all of the categories.

Leben relied on toughness and heavy hands and he dropped off and retired at 33. Brian Stann is the same, Wand is the same, Shogun is the same. You can pick any attribute and list fighters who fell apart young.

If you ever watched Fedors' career you would know what im talking about. between 2000-2006 he was a ground wizard finishing fights by submission. From 2006-2010 he used speed much like the crocop fight. 2010 - retirement he used power punching. Thats why i put him in all category. But the point here is someone in their 40's is still relevant in the title mix because of toughness and power.

And saying Leben is tough comparing to a guy like Hendo or Shogun is just laughable.
 
Achievement wise YES they both have successful careers. But comparing their age with someone like Hunt and Hendo they went downhill early.

Lol so you would rather have the career of hunt then big nog?
 
hunt doesn't have that many fights in his career.
 
If you ever watched Fedors' career you would know what im talking about. between 2000-2006 he was a ground wizard finishing fights by submission. From 2006-2010 he used speed much like the crocop fight. 2010 - retirement he used power punching. Thats why i put him in all category. But the point here is someone in their 40's is still relevant in the title mix because of toughness and power.

And saying Leben is tough comparing to a guy like Hendo or Shogun is just laughable.

That's the 2nd time you've mentioned Shogun here so let's use him. Guy's only 32 and he's nowhere near what he used to be. Fedor was older than that before he ever lost.
 
power yes, toughness no. Power is the last thing to go but if you rely on toughness and get hit a lot you will not last very long. Hunt has good defense, George Foreman took off years in the middle of his career.
 
Very infantile way to look at it. You are not comparing an apple to an apple. Too many variables to say anything with certainty eg you are talking out of your ass.
 
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