position before submisson. what does it mean? it seems like such a simple rule that there is no need to explain it, but not explaining it leaves me a little confused. jui jitsu is about position before submission, but why fall back with an armbar or leglock or guard? it seems to me that would be going for submission over keeping your position. i use these holds, but wonder if this clashes with the rule of position before submission. miss your sub and you're in an inferior position. maybe then these submission attempts are imperfect if you're competeing at the highest level and there is something better, yet to be discovered in grappling. then again, no movement is perfect movement. if you watch olympic wrestling or abu dhabi grappling it's boring to mundane vewiers because the matches are slow, inch by inch leaving the least possible room for mistakes. food for thought, just stop thinking if your nose, eyes, or ears start bleeding.