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[PBAC]

What exactly of the things the Catholic church was teaching? Did they prove false??

Because as it stands today, Protestants have infinitely more heirs than the Catholic faith does.

Beginning with the often discussed theological underpinning of Sola scriptura.

things like papal infalibility, that priests are nescessary to communicate with Jesus, confessions, forced donations, Jesus didn't focus on eternal damnation to hell as a major part of his teaching. The Catholic church used a heavy handed fear driven approach while the protestism became more about the love of Christ. Protestantism also accentuated good deeds through faith as opposed to church conformity.

Protestism didn't have a centralised system so it was more prone to splintering. There's also a plethora of conspiracy theories about Jesuits creating splinter groups on purpose to weaken the movement. It was an easier system for people to manipulate because religious eccentrics could tap into a ready made Christian market as opposed to building new religions from scratch. For this reason there were less splinter groups in the UK because the King was the authority as head of Church and state.


The Catholic Church also approved internal belief systems within the one system, hence why we have different Saints many of whom were transitions from pagan deities used to convert local populations. So really the Church allowed for other splinter beliefs but allowed them to operate with loyalty to the pope. They did not allow for radical faiths which did not swear papal allegiance as they were deemed heretical. Beliefs outside the Catholic churches hierachy were often labelled gnostic and distanced from Catholicism.

 

[terrapin]

You’re being ridiculous.

A. I never called him a heretic
B. Catholic cardinals have called into question his stances
C. There are clearly areas that he has done as pope which are outside of normative Catholic tradition
D. Any takes I have on him were in discussion with other Catholics
E. I’m leaving the Catholic Church because it’s left me

You said that he had made heretical statements. Then I explained to you that all of that has been explained by other theologians. Then I asked you to list them and you ghosted and then after that you repeated those lies again to someone else. So now you should either show your receipts or quit lying about the Pope.

You are being influenced by right wing propaganda.

 

[Rod1]

I’m leaving the Catholic Church because it’s left me

You were never catholic if you think like this.

 

[Rod1]

while the protestism became more about the love of Christ.

 

[PBAC]

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[Possum Jenkins]

This is a testament how amazing he was.

Rest in peace sir.

(I'm an agnostic atheist btw)

Pope Francis??

More like Woke Francis.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Guy was an Argentinian pope, massive football fan, and got to watch Argentina win the World Cup with Messi, WHILE a pope. Then dies of old age during Easter.

That's pretty good.

When it came out that he was a San Lorenzo supporter, they immediately took to him

 

[terrapin]

If the Pope uses his authority to set it as a decree it wouldn't be heretical as it would be divinely inspired, its a catch-22 because he would never in theory do anything heretical as Christ wouldn't let him.

You either believe the Pope is the Vicar of Christ or you don't, we can argue the powers of the Pope from a secular perspective all we want.

I think I see your perspective now.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Did you know there's odds out for the next pope?

Betting on the New Pope? Here's How to Place a Wager on the Bishop of Rome

While the US outlaws bets on the new pope, foreign bookmakers accept wagers. Here's how to place a bet on the new pope.

www.newsweek.com

Pietro Parolin is the front runner at +250
Luis Antonio Tagle (Philippines) at +450
We have a +600 chance of a black pope with Peter Turkson of Ghana
We even got a longshot named.... Pierbattista Pizzaballa from where else? Italy with a name straight out of a 90s name generator

Dear Catholics: you might want to choose a new Papa who's actually younger than the average US President.

Just sayin'.

 

[terrapin]

things like papal infalibility, that priests are nescessary to communicate with Jesus, confessions, forced donations, Jesus didn't focus on eternal damnation to hell as a major part of his teaching. The Catholic church used a heavy handed fear driven approach while the protestism became more about the love of Christ. Protestantism also accentuated good deeds through faith as opposed to church conformity.

Protestism didn't have a centralised system so it was more prone to splintering. There's also a plethora of conspiracy theories about Jesuits creating splinter groups on purpose to weaken the movement. It was an easier system for people to manipulate because religious eccentrics could tap into a ready made Christian market as opposed to building new religions from scratch. For this reason there were less splinter groups in the UK because the King was the authority as head of Church and state.


The Catholic Church also approved internal belief systems within the one system, hence why we have different Saints many of whom were transitions from pagan deities used to convert local populations. So really the Church allowed for other splinter beliefs but allowed them to operate with loyalty to the pope. They did not allow for radical faiths which did not swear papal allegiance as they were deemed heretical. Beliefs outside the Catholic churches hierachy were often labelled gnostic and distanced from Catholicism.

How would you determine that any of these are false? What criteria are you using to say that any of this is wrong??

 

[HockeyBjj]

Dear Catholics: you might want to choose a new Papa who's actually younger than the average US President.

Just sayin'.

Actually I don't believe they do. Pope serves for life. John Paul became pop at 58 and then was pope for the next 25 years. That's too long under one figurehead's leadership according to many of them.

I think that's why the guy after him they elected was 78 years old. then a 76 year old. I'm guessing they go for another 70 something year old and not someone in low 60s. They want 10-15 years on each leadership cycle I think.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Did you know there's odds out for the next pope?

Betting on the New Pope? Here's How to Place a Wager on the Bishop of Rome

While the US outlaws bets on the new pope, foreign bookmakers accept wagers. Here's how to place a bet on the new pope.

www.newsweek.com

Pietro Parolin is the front runner at +250
Luis Antonio Tagle (Philippines) at +450
We have a +600 chance of a black pope with Peter Turkson of Ghana
We even got a longshot named.... Pierbattista Pizzaballa from where else? Italy with a name straight out of a 90s name generator

I want a black Pope just so comedians can go crazy.

"You see, white popes were _______________, but BLACK pope be all _________________"

Hilarity ensues...

 

[KnightTemplar]

Actually I don't believe they do. Pope serves for life. John Paul became pop at 58 and then was pope for the next 25 years. That's too long under one figurehead's leadership according to many of them.

I think that's why the guy after him they elected was 78 years old. then a 76 year old. I'm guessing they go for another 70 something year old and not someone in low 60s. They want 10-15 years on each leadership cycle I think.

Makes about as much sense as a lot of other things the Catholic Church does.

 

[terrapin]

Actually I don't believe they do. Pope serves for life. John Paul became pop at 58 and then was pope for the next 25 years. That's too long under one figurehead's leadership according to many of them.

I think that's why the guy after him they elected was 78 years old. then a 76 year old. I'm guessing they go for another 70 something year old and not someone in low 60s. They want 10-15 years on each leadership cycle I think.

I agree with this. I think they choose all their popes with this consideration in mind.

 

[PBAC]

I want a black Pope just so comedians can go crazy.

"You see, white popes were _______________, but BLACK pope be all _________________"

Hilarity ensues...

MAGA would lose their shit ''actually we hate him because we don't think he's black ENOUGH''

 

[Osculater]

Makes about as much sense as a lot of other things the Catholic Church does.

 

[Osculater]

MAGA would lose their shit ''actually we hate him because we don't think he's black ENOUGH''

What if he walks around with a chalice and a walking cane

 

[PBAC]

How would you determine that any of these are false? What criteria are you using to say that any of this is wrong??

They based it on reading the bible. Protestants believe in biblical authority, Catholics believe in Church authorithy. When the bible became printed en-mass they also learned it said nothing about god's power being passed to the Church but in writing stated scripture was the authoithy.

It also became apparent that the church was relying on idoltry and traditional practices which the bible did not encourage, Maryan worship was also frowned upon as wholly unbiblical and likely created to appeal to religions holding a fertility goddess which were very popular still.

More than that the church also tried to outlkaw reading the bible as they preached that the flock could only hear the word from the priest. Latin was retained as the language of the book to ensure only educated people could read it.

 

[PBAC]

Trump pays tribute to the Pope alongside his wife and a giant rabbit

 

[terrapin]

They based it on reading the bible. Protestants believe in biblical authority, Catholics believe in Church authorithy. When the bible became printed en-mass they also learned it said nothing about god's power being passed to the Church but in writing stated scripture was the authoithy.

It also became apparent that the church was relying on idoltry and traditional practices which the bible did not encourage, Maryan worship was also frowned upon as wholly unbiblical and likely created to appeal to religions holding a fertility goddess which were very popular still.

More than that the church also tried to outlkaw reading the bible as they preached that the flock could only hear the word from the priest. Latin was retained as the language of the book to ensure only educated people could read it.

So it's based solely on biblical authority. That's called Sola Scriptural... only scripture.

Where in the Bible does it state that sola scriptura (only scripture) is the approach that should be used?


Try to really hear what I'm saying right now. Your entire understanding of the Bible rests on the notion that you can only use the Bible to interpret the Bible. That's your entire foundation for understanding scripture.

Where in the Bible does it say that? And can you think of any scriptures that directly contradict that?

And also man, you don't seem very combative and so I want you to know that I have no intention to be either.