Poirier ruined Paradigm Sports. Manny Pacquiao demands millions of dollars.
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You’re taking me back to the old school days when people would get all mad about thread placement. Those were the days.
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Conman was far too easy a fight for Pacquiao, just doesn't interest him. Pacquiao is a true warrior and true fighter, through and through.
Even age 42 he knew Pillowfists McGregory would be a walk in the park, and so would tiny manlet Mikey Garcia.
So he decides to take on Spence, the concensus #1 welterweight and top 5 pound for pounder. Absolute beast.
Even age 42 he knew Pillowfists McGregory would be a walk in the park, and so would tiny manlet Mikey Garcia.
So he decides to take on Spence, the concensus #1 welterweight and top 5 pound for pounder. Absolute beast.
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Its Conor's fault actually. His loss initiated the whole thing. The only reason Manny was with them is because of Conor and a potential match-up with him but now that he's a has been and is on a losing streak, Manny decided to go do his own thing without Paradigm.
The UFC angle here that no one has mentioned is the lawsuit mentions the potential Pacquiao/McGregor match but it doesn't mention the UFC at all. Which might imply that Conor can/was going to box without the UFC's involvement.
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Or that it was a bullshit lawsuit. Take your pick, the Ali Act exists
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Conor breaching his contract with the UFC would have repercussions, repercussions Conor does not want.
And conversely Conor has a pretty solid case for getting out of his contract via the Ali Act and booking the match in California or NY. And more importantly he would have the means to see it through in court. But like I said, either badly written lawsuit or the UFC already signed off on the match in advance/Conor was going to break out. Reasons to believe any of those paths.
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@TheWave111 Why does your title say Porier but article says Pacquaiao?
And Pacq isn't demanding anything, he's the one being sued
And Pacq isn't demanding anything, he's the one being sued
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Why would Conor sabotage his career on a gamble when he can make millions still fighting in the UFC? Had Conor beat Poirier in the 2nd fight, Dana and the UFC would absolutely fucking not let Conor go fight Pac without a cut.
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Your title is way off man. Pac is the one getting sued for millions. Including a $3.3M advance.
Any or some combination of the below.
-UFC and Conor had a prior agreement where he could box every now and then
-Conor would make far more boxing on his own (even if we incldue the cost of litigation) than he would make in the UFC or boxing with the UFC as his manager/promoter
-Conor felt he had enough leverage to get out based on how much money he makes the UFC
-Ali Act and boxing regulations offer a pretty clear path out if he's got the money.
-ESPN and Wall Street wouldn't want the embarrassment of an ugly legal battle with the UFC's biggest moneymaker.
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Maybe. I think that’s a classic excuse. We saw how he looked after “changing his focus” for the last fight. Dude got beaten worse than the first fight. His boxing-centric approach actually helped him in the first fight IMO. And just for good measure let’s remember he still got buckled from the singular calf kick Dustin threw in their last fight. So let’s not pretend he would have stopped those calf kicks the first fight if he hadn’t been focusing on mannyNah, in the grand scheme of things Conor should’ve been more short sighted and focused on the task at hand, actually beating Poirier, I mean the guy isn’t a slouch... But, instead he admitted to running quasi boxing focused type camp in an attempt to kill two birds with one stone and got KTFO for his arrogance of looking past Dustin.
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Conor is very well paid by the UFC. He's probably made 100 million his last 2 fights with Poirier. Conor already makes boxing money.
He absolutely didn't make 100 million his last two fights with Poirier. He probably made about $20 million per fight. If you think that Conor made 100 million for 2 fights this year, that means the UFC spent about 75 percent of their fighter pay budget on Conor alone, which frankly if you believe that means you don't know shit about finances in boxing or mma. Conor isn't even in the same pay scale as a guy like Canelo or top tier heavyweights in boxing. The UFC takes too much of the revenue for that.
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I was probably being too hyperbolic but Conor made around 50 million from the Khabib fight which did 2.4m buys. Second Poirier fight did 1.6m buys and the 3rd did 1.8m.
Conor bent the UFC over when he had leverage and is reaping the rewards of that. 30 million or so per fight sounds reasonable.
Yeah you still are way off in your estimates. UFC revenue in 2018 was was just under $700 million. If we're optimistic that gives us $140 million for fighter expenses. So bottom line, unless you think the UFC just didn't pay PPV points or have LOAs with their champions that year, there isn't room in that budget to pay Conor $30 million to fight Khabib.
You're overestimating how much leverage Conor has in fighter pay, this was a dude how didn't make more than Brock until late in his career. He wasn't even making more than $8 million a fight before Khabib, so unless you think the UFC quadrupled his pay in a one fight span...
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Paradigm and it's top management can go out of business for all I care. They fucked both Tony and Joanna among others I'm sure.
They protected Conor from Tony at a time when Tony was actively trying to fight top guys to a point where Tony had to leave and said as much. They wasted a ton of his time and seemed to actively work against him.
They wouldn't even return Joanna's calls after signing her despite having her first fight with Rose coming up to a point where she was forced to deal with Dana without representation and only had a family member or friend brought to the meeting with her to see Dana. I wouldn't put it past them to time this deliberately knowing her family situation was pretty fucked up at the time going through a nasty breakup while also going to camp just to fuck with her contract negotiation. People forget Joanna was having meetings with Hollywood execs at the time and was just about to get the Ronda treatment. Could have been a coincidence but if so they are monumentally incompetent where an athlete would have been better off being managed by a random fan.
Paradigm is at the top of the corrupt and incompetent management company pile and being corrupt is a given for most of them so that says something.
