Elections Pocahontas to Hillary: “HOW do I beat Trump?”

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  1. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Not only that, but a previous campaign would have gathered a lot of important information about their opponent. Getting access to that would be valuable regardless of who won the election. But no one's thinking here. It's just another partisan vent thread.
     
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  2. JamesRussler

    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    Politics is about winning elections. It is about acquiring power by way of convincing people to vote for you. Getting appointed to a cabinet position doesn’t count. Being First Lady doesn’t count. Co-signing failed legislative initiatives doesn’t count. Losing your party’s nomination battle doesn’t count. Losing the general election doesn’t count.

    The simple reality is that almost every time Hillary’s political strength was tested, she lost. She lost to underdogs, unknowns, and outsiders of all types. In all her years as a politician, she was only elected to one office (NY Senator), and that was in a solid blue state, after 8 years as Bill Clinton’s First Lady. Even her 2016 primary win is tainted, because she cheated with the DNC’s help. Even then Hillary lost half of the states to Bernie fucking Sanders (who, BTW, was elected mayor of his hometown, then elected for 8 terms as U.S. Rep for Vermont, before being elected for 3 terms in the Senate).

    Hillary is a lot of things, but she not a good politician. In fact, she is one of the worst politicians of all time.
     
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    kpt018 Gold Belt

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    Again, that’s all bogus. She’s won elections too and was appointed to important positions. You’re just blinded by your hate for her and your distorted view of winners/losers.
     
  4. JamesRussler

    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    It’s not partisan. As a matter of fact, I praised Bernie Sanders. I’ll say it again: Bernie Sanders is a better politician than Hillary ever will be. If anything, Pocahontas should be asking Bernie for tips on how to beat the DNC.
     
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    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    What election did she ever win, besides NY Senator?
     
  6. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Disingenuous as usual. Bernie ran against not the DNC but Clinton (and lost by a big margin). So it's hard to argue that he's a better politician. But for the same reasons, he'd be a good person to talk to if someone else were running against Clinton (he could help with debate prep, opposition research, etc.).
     
  7. JamesRussler

    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    Oh, I’m being disingenuous now? The DNC Chair (Donna Brazile) was feeding Clinton debate questions ahead of time. They were discussing ways to use Bernie’s Jewishness against him. Bernie was running against the DNC and Democratic establishment, and everyone knows it. He did pretty damn well, all things considered.
     
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    Tropodan Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    Hahahaha!

    Yea you're damn right the previous "campaign" gathered lots of information.

    Illegally.
     
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  9. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Huh? If you're aware of any illegal information gathering on Clinton's side (obviously we know that Russia and Trump illegally gathered information), you should report it.
     
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    Tropodan Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    Lol.

    Troll.

    Trump did nothing illegal during the campaign. The Clintobs however, used the powers of the FBI to spy on Trump gaining access to all kinds of campaign info, illegally.
     
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  11. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    I'm a troll because you're making crazy stuff up. OK.
     
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    Wait, are you saying that winning two terms as a Senator doesn’t qualify as a successful political career? Winning the party’s nomination for president? Appointed Secretary of State?

    You’re out of your mind.
     
  13. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Or trolling. Don't spare any mental energy thinking about Russler's posts.

    Sartre:

     
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    kpt018 Gold Belt

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    I know, you’re right. The good news is that it takes very little mental energy to respond to something so dumb.
     
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    Tropodan Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    No you're a troll for your notoriously ambiguous speech. It's so far from the truth and opposite landy, the rational mind will easily assume it's a troll job.
     
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  16. JamesRussler

    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    The answer to my question is “No.”

    And the answer to your question is “Yes.”
     
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    Well you’re nuts.
     
  18. JamesRussler

    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    That’s rich, coming from Sherdog’s resident potato poster. You don’t have any mental energy, Jack. You get BTFO’d every time you venture out of the WR Lounge. Your posts are all copy-paste jobs from Vox or Mother Jones. You lose an argument, so you call the other guy a “troll.” It’s always the same. Give it a rest old man. Get back in the Lounge before I verbally turn you into a mashed potato.

    Says the guy who thinks Hillary getting appointed to a cabinet position = “political success.” Yeah, okay big guy. Politics is about winning elections, but you think getting installed as head of an executive agency is the same thing. That has to be the most politically autistic take I’ve ever heard. Maybe that’s why your candidates keep losing.
     
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  19. Jack V Savage

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    That's never happened, and I'll bet you you can't provide a single example. If it was "all," there would be many examples.
     
  20. JamesRussler

    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    Yeah, well you’re incorrect.
     
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