Elections Pocahontas to Hillary: “HOW do I beat Trump?”

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  1. andnowweknow

    andnowweknow The Giant On Whose Shoulders You Stand Double Yellow Card

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    Stats aren't real. The sword to die on for a Trumper. Makes far too much sense so run with it. He's gotta run on an awful record to run on too. He's gonna get destroyed without someone the right hates to run against.
     
  2. Liquid Smoke

    Liquid Smoke Great artists steal™

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    Ummm... have you seen the D field?
     
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    Saying any of this while supporting Trump has to be a little embarrassing...and again, the right doesn't have anywhere near the irrational hatred for any of those people that they did for Hillary.

    Very few people like Trump, even among his supporters. They just dislike the left. Without a candidate on the other side to hate, Trump is fucked.
     
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    Pretty smart on Warrens part actually. Bitter sociopathic Hillary is definitely not someone you want against you.
     
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    Yeah, it includes a bunch of people who even most on the right find less objectionable personally than Trump. You're not picking up what I'm putting down brosef...Hillary isn't running and she brought a huge number of moderates out for Trump. That simply won't happen this time because the Dems are all blah and Trump is widely unlikable even in his own party.
     
  6. Amerikuracana

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    Trumps personality is not what anybody should want for a president, but what he said on the campaign trail was worth voting for. Beto bounces when he talks like a fkn idiot 19 year old pot-head, while talking about thee worst ideas ever. He completely sucks. Trump has business and life experience; he has decent instincts. He wants America's interests first, and he doesn't run on why America sucks.

    Live in reality.
     
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    Overlooked point.
     
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    andnowweknow The Giant On Whose Shoulders You Stand Double Yellow Card

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    I think it's pretty telling that you keep bringing up Beto...as if he has any shot at the nomination. Trump lied to you to get elected, and it sounds like you're gonna buy his obvious bs again.
     
  9. Amerikuracana

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    He didn't follow through on everything, but probably enough. Bernie without the archaic civil rights battle would probably strengthen citizens positions in some key areas, and I could vote for that. But yeah, Trump still doesn't seem to like war; still wants to stop sending China all our wealth in exchange for a lowered bar on standard of living and quality etc.. And he still wants to put the whole of America's interests first.. Oh and he isn't an open border whacko.
     
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    Open borders definition
    open border. › a situation in which goods and people can enter and leave a country easily: open border between sth and sth There should be an open border between the two countries.

    Everything you're listing is making it easy for people to enter and leave the US. Pls tell me what will be difficult about entering the country when there is no wall, no penalty for doing so, no threat of enforcement and incentives to stay?

    Yes, I know what reparations are. I don't think anyone is entitled to them. So in my opinion they're hand out aka free stuff aka buying votes.
     
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    Amazing
     
  12. Amerikuracana

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    The tax breaks were Republican bs. We know.
     
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    The tax breaks were all Paul Ryan, who Trump called a loser.
     
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    Low Test With da Best Yellow Belt Platinum Member

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    Wow she looks so much better without glasses and those 15 extra years she picked up over the years!
     
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    Honestly if you get eye poked by JJ, it's your own fault. You know it's coming, he does it every fight.
     
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    Maybe.

    Truth is Biden couldn't have beaten her and would have trouble raising enough money to even try.
     
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    The OP is an example of atrocious thinking.

    Clinton is a highly intelligent, experienced and very successful politician. And smart people have great insights on experiences even when they lose. Often losing or getting things wrong provide more insight than success.

    Warren is wise to discuss the election with Hillary as well as Obama if he’s open to it. She’ll certainly want insight into the mistakes made and successes. It’s not easy to find people that ran a presidential campaign you know!
     
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    TBH I think the only valuable experience Hillary can share is in how to capture the DNC and use them to put their thumb on the scale in favor of your campaign. Her narrow popular vote victory in the generals shouldn’t be seen as anything but an abject failure. She was running against Donald Trump WITHOUT the advantages of incumbency. It shouldn’t have been remotely close.
     
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  19. JamesRussler

    JamesRussler You can call me Jimmy

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    Normally I’d agree, but Hillary is not exactly a successful politician. Bill is (was) a successful politician, and Hillary stood on his shoulders. As First Lady, Hillary pushed health care legislation (“Hillarycare”), but failed to garner support. After Bill left office, she ran and got elected a Senator in NY. To date, that’s the only election she actually won. She went on to lose the Democratic nomination in 2008 to some unknown guy with a funny name. She barely got the nomination in 2016, eking out Bernie Sanders (a self-described Socialist). After that, she lost to a political novice in Donald Trump. We all remember how that campaign went.

    Hillary is a uniquely bad politician. She had opportunities handed to her, she did not earn them. She has a long history of failing to secure public support. She is not thoughtful or reflective, and that is why she doesn’t learn from her mistakes. She still makes excuses for her loss in 2016. There is no insight Hillary has that Pocahontas can’t glean herself simply by studying the 2016 election.
     
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  20. kpt018

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    She objectively had a long and successful career. Her shortcoming was losing to trump. Anyone in politics would kill for the career she had. You’re off your rocker on that. Don’t mistake your dislike for her with her success in politics.
     
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