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Discussion in 'Strength & Conditioning Discussion' started by MN-KungFu, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. MN-KungFu

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    i find playing ball or another kind of sport that dealing with alot of running is a better way then striaght jogging cause i tend not to pay attention to the running, but to the game. anyone play other sports to help with there fitness or a substiute.
     
  2. ArmyBJJ

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    My training regiment actually consist of one sports day that has to deal with cardio (i.e. Basketball, Ultimate Frisby, Football, Racquetball. I feel this helps me out alot because like you stated, you do not think about all the running you are doing because you are having fun.
     
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    Swimming....and diving. Not diving off a spring board but free diving with a mask and snorkel.
     
  4. Charles Kozeluh

    Charles Kozeluh Purple Belt Professional Fighter

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    after cardio on my days off work I'll go play basketball it's good but will never take the place of fight cardio
     
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    I play basketball 2 hrs every day to work on my cardio. I find it helps work my muscles and makes them more flexible, works on balance, etc... But the chance for Injury is high. More Athletes get hurt playing Basketball then any other sport including MMA(only counting hospital visit injuries).
     
  6. Vilo Magee

    Vilo Magee Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    Nothing will ever equal the stamina you will gain from running long distances plain and simple.
    I do play handball, Raquetball, and tennis sometimes (handball more than the other two.)
     
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    wenispinkle Skankin' It Easy...

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    wow.....completely not true.....if you need proof pm me
     
  8. Madmick

    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Swimming is the single greatest exercise available to man.

    And Trampolines, too, I recently learned. Weird.
     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Yeah, where'd you get this Boom?

    Stamina has to do with a number of factors, and running only excels in one- cardiovascular conditioning. But you can do that with any exercise that raises your HR to 150-170.
     
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    i like putting in sports into cardio routines. I think basketball can build some explosion when driving but more importantly i believe that since its not a straight forward run, the breathing isnt always steady making it more of a simulation to rolling.

    I would probably say its not one of the best but it is fun and good to have.
     
  11. Vilo Magee

    Vilo Magee Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    i speak from experience. Running distance is my primary form of conditioning and I can confidently say that there are not to many people who can keep up with me in the stamina department. I can go ten rounds very easily which with my style of boxing is an achievement because I throw anywheres from 80-100 punches per round.
    I also can name off a shit load of top proffessional boxers that use distance running as their primary source of cardio who never gas in the ring and can put up alost superhuman punch stats. For example Oscar Larios a guy known for throwing 100+ punches per round runs 4 miles per day 5 days per week then 9 miles on saturday on a 13% grade every single week.
    For example when Livingstone Bramble was fighting 15 round title fights he was throwing 75-90 punches per round and his only source of conditioning was running 5-7 miles per day.
    I can name off probably 50 to 60 top world champion level guys who relied solely on distance running who had impeccable stamina in the ring.
    I go by what is battle proven not by some stupid fucking study by some nerd in a controlled environment lab. These studies may work when you are in a lab but when you get into a ring in front of cheering jeering fans all tense and scared shitless across from a guy who has every intention of knocking yor head off your body and caving your ribs in that is where conditioning techniques are proven.
    If you can show me a real world study where to comparably skilled and built fighters one using distance as the primary source of conditioning the other using some faggy scientific technique are in the ring getting hit in the face body back of the head shoulders and elbows while sweating under the lights and being nervous and scared and i will believe that other techniques work but until then I will stay with what is battle proven
     
  12. muerteverde

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    Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love running and believe it is a great form of excersize, and one of the best for stamina. But stamina is not a single numebr that you jsut raise up and down and running long distance is not a cure all. Intense interval running ( maybe 300 or 400 meter intervals, all out, 1 minute rest in between, for example) for example, can be arguably more applicable to a fight situation than a 10K would be. And running will neglect (mostly) your upper body that is essential in compat sports. Running can definitly be a good base on a conditioning program but simple distance running needs to be suplemented with toher training too.

    In high school I had the experience of going from corss contry season to swim season, then from swim season to outdoor track season (again, disance running) and each time it took me a couple weeks to adjust. The running didn't condition me well for swimming and the swimming didn't condition me well for running.

    A lot of people hate running because they think it is boring or they jsut don't like it. Doing basketball where they run up and down a court and move all around is a good substitute in my opinion, but they are certainly not the same. I personally cannot stand basketball and would rather get out there ont he road or the track and do some real running. Whatever suits you I suppose.
     
  13. Sinister

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    I think what Boom is getting at is that the distance running makes the best staple of conditioning training. Which arguably it does. But by his own admission he does a Hell of a lot more cardio exercises than just distance running. Just that if you remove the distance running versus removing everything else, you'll find that it makes for a shittier fighter when you remove the running. Many fighters succomb to this, their cardio usually doesn't start going completely to shit until they stop doing "road work" which is Boxing terminology for distance running and running exercises like sprints.
     
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    Basketball and mma fighting in similiar, with building calf muscles for explosion too the hoop or take downs and punches.
     
  15. Vilo Magee

    Vilo Magee Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    Distance running should be the staple of every serious fighters regimen. You show me a boxer who only trains boxing i will show you a guy who gasses in 3 rounds. I do other things to supplement my distance running but without Distance running my stamina is nowhere near what it is with it.
     
  16. BoxingFanNoMore

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    How many miles do you run on average? Boomstick
     
  17. Vilo Magee

    Vilo Magee Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    I run between 3-5 miles per day. some days I run for speed with a speciffic time in mind like 3 miles in 21 min or 5 miles in 45 minutes I usually set the bar really high so i push myself. I also will sometimes run on hills, in sand, or on a treadmill. I mix my running up alot with sprints also and soemtimes even walking. Distance running is what has given me the extra stamina to perform at the level i perform at
     
  18. muerteverde

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    Yeah, ok, I see where you are at then, that it is a good base for a conditioning program to build your other excersizes around. It looks like youa re pushing hard when you run too, an important part. I see so many people who just plod along, or who will go out and run 12 miles, but at a snails pace. They can move slowly forever, but that isn't going to get them great fight cardio. I am recovering from 2 separate leg injuries now so I am off running for at least another week (no judo either, and with my big tournie coming up), but my workouts in running have mostly been looking pretty much like yours, with a few long up hill runs in every once and a while (but keeping a decent pace), maybe around 10 miles. I mix some up hill sprints in with mine, but the only walking time is recovery betweenthe sprints. I had hoped to run a 10K August 14, but that is out now with all the hip, foot, and knee injuries I have had the past month. :(
     
  19. LCDforMe

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    My friend was a college cross country star. That kid could run forever. He'd run like 5-10 miles a day. I could kick his ass though, he weighs only like 135-140. Sissy.
     
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    wenispinkle Skankin' It Easy...

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    boomstick, sent you a workout. perform and post your feedback
     

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