Plastic Water bottles and estrogen

Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by Zero_Sen, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. Zero_Sen Shodan

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    Props to Dudeski for bringing this info. to attention earlier in a different sherdog subforum, but I'm going to post it here since I thought D&S's would find it interesting:

    I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with the general problems of reusing plastic water bottles.

    They've been addressed in D & S before: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=651664&highlight=water+bottles

    But here's something you might not know:

    (from http://leas.ca/On-the-Trail-of-Water-Bottle-Toxins.htm)

    Some additional elaboration on the subject:

    (http://doctorariel.blogspot.com/2007/07/plastic-blues-how-your-water-bottle-can.html)

    And the kicker is that this warning applies to Nalgene bottles (or any hard plastic, reuseable water bottles made with BPA).

    And it gets worse:

    (from http://www.infocafe.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=247).

    And I thought I was in the clear as far as reusable water bottle issues go because I use a Nalgene bottle, wash it often with hot soapy water, and periodically sanitizing it with diluted bleach. Turns out I may have been making things worse.

    And while there are conflicting findings with respect to BPA, plastic water bottles, and adverse effects on humans, some researchers point out the following:

    http://www.ourstolenfuture.com/NewScience/oncompounds/bisphenola/2005/2005-0413vomsaalandhughes.htm

    More reading:

    http://www.infocafe.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=247

    http://doctorariel.blogspot.com/2007/07/plastic-blues-how-your-water-bottle-can.html

    http://leas.ca/On-the-Trail-of-Water-Bottle-Toxins.htm

    I've heard that stainless steel or glass water bottles are good alternative, but apparently not all plastic bottles are bad:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalgene#Controversy
     
  2. FirstNobleTruth Blue Belt

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    This isn't good news at all.
     
  3. Loomy Purple Belt

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    This is old but bad news :) Basically: the world works slowly and bpa is still found all over the place. But given enough time, it will probably be illegal/gone from most places. Companies like selling cheap stuff for as long as possible though, so they keep the process of change as slow as possible.

    Independent studies are slowly coming out about how bad BPA is.

    Here is the latest from Consumer Reports this month, it is conservative and not complete information, but it is trustworthy. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ients-in-bottles-and-cans/recalls-plastic.htm

    Polycarbonate baby bottles give babies 50x more bpa daily than is already known to be harmful. They are still the vast majority of baby bottles sold in stores. This is changing and will hopefully accelerate.

    From other sources I know to keep your babies and wives away from BPA so the baby doesn't get bombarded with it. For us older people, the damage has for the most part already been done. All of our bodies are already filled with bpa, and our balls are probably already shrunken!
     
  4. joshetc butthole hurts from teh gay

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    How about disposable water bottles? Like deer park or whatever. This is really interesting.

    Also, this kind of sucks. Especially with what I've noticed to be a migration toward polycarbonate water bottles (for obvious reasons, that shit is indestructable) Apparently, polycarbonate is one of the worst culprits...
     
  5. Vector Green Belt

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    Oh great :mad:

    The plastic bottle I've used everyday for 2 years to drink water has a '7' on the bottom. Who do I sue?
     
  6. Freeman102010 not Bȧnned

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  7. gogoGomi unstoppable_flow

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    From Consumer Reports;
     
  8. Rowan11088 Purple Belt

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    Just be sure to check which type of plastic bottles you're using. I was worried for a minute, but turns out everything I've got is #1 plastic, or polyethylene. Totally safe. For those interested, that includes poland spring, powerade, and vitamin water, judging from what I have lying around.
     
  9. JohnnyBuddha Brown Belt

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    Yep, another instance of something seemingly benign slowly poisoning us for years. I've heard you cheapos out there shouldn't be reusing plastic utensils either. I got myself a stainless steel water bottle the other day and it's pretty nice. I'd been using a Nalgene one for years and it definitely started smelling and tasting a bit plasticky.
     
  10. mustang Blue Belt

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    I know they mentioned when plastic bottles were heated but I remember reading something about the harmful effects of putting plastic water bottles in the freezer? Anyone remember anything bout that?
     
  11. Roid Monster Brown Belt

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    Stick to number #2, 4 and 5 plastic for drink bottles those are non leaching.

    Stainless steel bottles suck they make water taste like meetal and the meetal leaching is probably just as bad for you.
     
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    Glass bottle FTW
     
  13. Goth_Judoka A rainbow in the dark!

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    My roommates brother has one, I'll have to ask him how he likes it. Interested in getting one myself.
     
  15. mackz Guest

    Problem with Aluminum bottles is that the coating tends to allow toxins to get in and acidic liquids can sometimes crack the lining.

    Stick to either Stainless Steel water bottles or Glass bottles. I was a Nalgene user for like 3 years...but I'm probably going to buy a stainless steel bottle..

    It's better then drinking water that taste like plastic. Also, even if your plastic bottle is labeled #2 or #4 theres still a minor chance where bacteria/chemical can seep through..
     
  16. Goth_Judoka A rainbow in the dark!

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    Thanks. :icon_chee
     
  17. JinKazama Silver Belt

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    great

    i was wondering where these boobies came from
     
  18. Halfway ...there...

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    Good to know.

    *throws plastic water bottle away*
     
  19. MikeMartial Black Belt

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    I've kept my eye on this issue since it first popped up; I have to admit, I was dubious at first. I've completely retracted my opinion as of late.
     
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