Picking and choosing as an amateur or taking on all comers

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biscuitsbrah

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So I was wondering what the ‘smart’ thing to do as an amateur would be.

I’m coming off of a loss at 135 for this promotions title. And i might have an offer to fight the 125 title in a month. I know these ammy titles don’t mean anything but I’m assuming it’s a good experienced guy.

Now I’ve heard people say after a loss you should take a step down in competition, build your record and confidence etc. But im told being an amateur is to make mistakes now and your record doesn’t matter cuz it resets as pro anyway. Just get the experience.

So im wondering if I should take another hard fight, probably come in as the underdog or whatever. It’s not like I got blown out my last fight either.
I think I already know the answer but I just wanted to make sure and hear your guys thoughts on the matter.
 
DoctorTaco said:
Take the hard fights now, but make sure they’re winnable. If you just got wrestle fucked for 5 rounds don’t jump back in there with a high level wrestler right away.
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Haha duh that makes sense. I was thinking in black and white about taking fights. I just have to be realistic about my current skill set compared to the opponent I’m facing.
 
As an ammy you should be taking as much fights as you can, its not on your "record" so who gives a shit. You're here to learn the experience, and should you go pro and make it career choice (weather as part time or not) no worries, no one is gonna go "oh man he's has 2 losses on his ammy record"

Now if you and your coach thinks this guy will give you permanent damage, its completely understandable to avoid it until its right
 
biscuitsbrah said:
Haha duh that makes sense. I was thinking in black and white about taking fights. I just have to be realistic about my current skill set compared to the opponent I’m facing.
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I was the one who was being black and white, lol. I was in a hurry in between clients.

your amateur career is to test yourself, see where you are lacking and then fix it as much as you can before you go pro. Amateur records don’t matter. Amateur titles don’t matter much either except to help promote your brand regionally. I’ve got a rough checklist of who I want my amateurs to compete against before they go pro. I need to see them in there against a good wrestler, a heavy puncher, a cardio machine, someone with good jujitsu, a good striker, a good Southpaw striker, things like that. I don’t care what kind of “specialist” I’m working with, They need to be able to utilize their skill set in a diverse and unique manner to deal with a variety of opponents.

I would recommend that you treat your career in the same way. If there is somebody terrorizing the local mma scene in your weight class but you think you’ve got the key to beating him, then step up to scratch and give it a shot. If you are consistently losing to the same archetype of fighter then take a little time off of competing, fix those holes and then try it again.
 
It def can’t hurt to pick and choose as an ammy. Most amateur event promoters are absolute slimy fucks who give no cares other than putting fights together.

Maybe your experience is different, but in my 2nd fight I got paired up with someone who has had 20 including a pro record (wtf was he doing fighting amateur?). I’ve watched the same promoter tell a guy “oh well, you look 155” after missing weight by several lbs and never tell the other fighter.

IMO as an amateur you gotta look out for yourself.
 
As many fights as you can.Picking and choosing isnt ammy stuff.

Just be smart about it
 
DoctorTaco said:
Take the hard fights now, but make sure they’re winnable. If you just got wrestle fucked for 5 rounds don’t jump back in there with a high level wrestler right away.
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You don't have gradations for ammy tournaments\fights in US? Like, by experience, number of fights etc. criteria? So, for newbs to don't get fucked by a high-lvl guys?
 
I took every fight that offered to me. 40 - 0 I'd fight him 3 - 34 I'd fight him. Didn't bother me at all.
My problem was taking fights above the weight I was at.
 
RemyR said:
Most amateur event promoters are absolute slimy fucks who give no cares other than putting fights together.
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In pros this too happens, especially if event's promoter doesn't have just only MMA fights business and events. Then too depends from relationship with event's promoter, your promoter and from your manager etc.
I might list two examples how different this attitude from event's promoter might be.
The same event's promoter.
One guy get 6 MMA fights in row vs debut guys ( they are cheaper to book and such fights usually are lesser paid ( vs debut guys ).
Another guy does have manager who does have good relationship vs this event's promoter.
He might tell: I do have budget xxxx for this fight on my card. Now show me some fighters you want to fight vs in this said event. This maybe cost more, this lesser. Show me guy and I will attempt to get him.
gym and guy does have option to pick more suitable for fighter opponent ( ranking etc factors ) if this cost not more than said budget xxxx limit.
 
Pro career depends from a lot of variables, sometimes unpredictable obstacles.
Especially if fighter doesn't have long term contract with event's promoter, just for single fights ( each next fight = next contract for single this one fight ).

One from weirdest stuff I had saw: guy, lets say lad C is MMA guy, however he is also a boxer.
His manager get him sparring gig with lad A. Good, for this level well paid gig, nice exp.
However lad A had been used to fight vs boxer B who appeared that now is event's promoter boxer. They didn't knew this cos earlier B didn't had contract with this promoter.
Boxer B did not had managed to beat this boxer A.;)

Event's promoter told nothing, he just after this never had offered to guy C to do any fights in his show.
Ppl in this business might be a bit unpredictable.
How they will impact your life is not easy to predict. One guy had get beat up in his pro debut fight, they get him normal casual job pretty quickly , another just lost on points ( a bit ) and didn't had been used anymore.
 
Woldog said:
I took every fight that offered to me. 40 - 0 I'd fight him 3 - 34 I'd fight him. Didn't bother me at all.
My problem was taking fights above the weight I was at.
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Fight IronKhan
 
Dexter said:
You don't have gradations for ammy tournaments\fights in US? Like, by experience, number of fights etc. criteria? So, for newbs to don't get fucked by a high-lvl guys?
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not for mma. Anyone can fight anyone, it’s just up to the coaches and match makers to set it up and agree.
 
DoctorTaco said:
not for mma. Anyone can fight anyone, it’s just up to the coaches and match makers to set it up and agree.
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Not in the US? Over here things are still organized by exp levels
 
j123 said:
Not in the US? Over here things are still organized by exp levels
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That’s only kickboxing/muay thai. We don’t do that for mma.

It also wouldn’t make sense because guys come from all different types of backgrounds. A wrestler with 150 matches shouldn’t have to fight a kickboxer with 1 mma fight
 
biscuitsbrah said:
It also wouldn’t make sense because guys come from all different types of backgrounds. A wrestler with 150 matches shouldn’t have to fight a kickboxer with 1 mma fight
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