Peoples experiences with 'mental stimulants'

Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by Ian Coe, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. Ian Coe

    Ian Coe Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Right, odd topic I know but I thought I'd throw it out there.


    I'm perusing the internet as always when I see piractam, anircaetam and Alpha-GPC (basically choline). They have been noted as helping improve mental clarity and varying degrees of cognitive function (short term memory for example).


    Does anyone have any exprience with any of these substances or have a opinion on their effectivness?

    I know its not really supplementation for sports performance, but I thought I would ask
     
  2. skeet

    skeet Grammar Nazi

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    I've received many samples of those and more from work.

    None of them (perceivably) worked as good as Ginko, IMO.
     
  3. WatcH OuT

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    I heard some stories about fighters taking cocaine and also seem to help against taking a hit.

    Anyway I think good rest and good training and being healthy (with your diet) is the natural key to suc6 to be mental prepared...
     
  4. Ian Coe

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    That's interesting, because I was under the impression it's effects were based on inhibiting platelet aggregation. What type of work do you do?
     
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    I've used piracetam + lecithin as a stack for a while. Never really noticed it too much, so I stopped taking it.
     
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    thethirddiaz vas a morir

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    If Oyaji Poi doesn't respond, send him a PM or search for his thread (or at least the one he hijacked) about this stuff. He had some interesting stuff to say about it and said that piracetam+lecitihin is what he would recommend also IIRC.
     
  8. Ian Coe

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    Interesting

    I was thinking about buying a few things to help with revision and what not, piracetam and aniracetam being two that have stood out.
    Lecithin being a supply of choline I think
     
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    i think caffeine & tyrosine together make an amazing mental stimulant. greatly improves workout intensity, concentration, etc etc.. but the crash is wicked.
     
  10. Ian Coe

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    You just reminded me I have some taurine and loads of tyrosine kicking about.


    I'm revising for a test next friday and although if I order anything from the US I won't get it to aid me, i have other things in the not too distant that I could do with some mental aids with, hence this topic


    edit- how much tyrosine do you take?
     
  11. TX911

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    a couple of caffeine pills gets the job done for me.
     
  12. Sinister

    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Ritalin is the best mental stimulant I've heard of. It's just like ephedra, meaning it works in very similar ways. The only real difference between the two is that Ritalin crosses the blood/brain barrier. A lot of the ridicule it's gotten is off-base from everything I've been told about it.

    BTW, this info is coming third-hand from Rjkd12, as he did his best for like two straight months to get me to try it, not recognizing that unlike him, I don't have Doctor friends who can write prescriptions. lol
     
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    i consume as little an amount of stimulants as i can, but when i do, it's usually in the form of an energy drink.. like half a spike or a redline. if i drink enough to enhance my workout, i generally want to break things the following morning.
     
  14. Ian Coe

    Ian Coe Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Ok then


    The idea of this thread really to all is for cognitive enhancement (eg short term memory).
    Not really for supplements to give me 'an edge' in training.

    If the two shall meet then thats cool, but as long as there is a cross over


    Read: I don't want to hear about cocaine use to help prevent being KO'd
     
  15. Zero_Sen

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    That raises a good point:

    Should fighters avoid supplementing with ginkgo?

    (from http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/ginkgo-biloba-000247.htm#Precautions):


    EDIT: also interesting (from the same link):

     
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