People who practice mostly the ground game, why not focus more on your stand up?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by DKM76, Sep 23, 2005.

  1. DKM76

    DKM76 Guest

    To the ones that spent most of their time in wrestling, judo, and BJJ...why not spend more time on striking arts like boxing and/or MT?

    just wanna see if your reasoning is amongst the following: grappling skills are more important.....I don't have time......I enjoy grappling more.........there is more to learn in grappling than in stand up....a good grappler will beat a striker any day....according to the UFC , the wrestler wins more often.....or any other reasons that you may have.
     
  2. mogway

    mogway Blue Belt

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    I definately enjoy grappling more. I did two years of Muay Thai before I started BJJ.
     
  3. b00m3r

    b00m3r White Belt

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    I enjoy grappling more and for recreational training grappling just seems safer. I can't go into work with black eyes and cuts and I'm not training to be an NHB fighter.
     
  4. Cojofl

    Cojofl Brown Belt

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    A lot of people don't like being hit in the face.
     
  5. Groundshark

    Groundshark Orange Belt

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    I love them both.
     
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    colinm Brown Belt

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    i grapple mainly because i think its more fascinating technique-wise than striking. i also enjoy the sport of grappling more, plus its gentler on the body. i should add that i do really appreciate seeing a good striker in mma, and i plan on training mt when i quit my part-time job and have some more time.
     
  7. Stoic1

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    It no longer has the allure it once did. My main reasons:

    There are more grappling competitions than kickboxing competitions.
    Showing up to the office with a busted lip and a mouse under your eye gets tiring to explain.
    I say grappling has a slight edge over striking in the area of self-defense.
     
  8. Steeltwo

    Steeltwo Green Belt

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    a good striker with a good takedown defense seems to be the current MMA thig to be.

    mirko and chuck are examples of it.
     
  9. blanko

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    because 95%+ of the people who post here have no intentions of being an MMA fighter. This is a grapplign forum and the people here perer grappling (just like it more). If you go to the stand up forum and ask the same question in reverse you will get the same answers.

    steeltwo,
    Mirko yes but chuck was a d-1 wrestler (a pretty good one too) before he was a "striker".
     
  10. Gsoares2***

    Gsoares2*** Banned Banned

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    Its more fun, it smoother and finishes a fight clean without hurting your hands, shins, or feet.

    When compared solely against other martial arts it continuously comes out victorious.

    In practice you spar full force every single day and still walk home feeling fine after. Well most of the time.

    Bjj isnt so watered down as most striking arts have become. I walk around at a TKD or Karate tournament and their are kids who are just above learning to whipe their ass wearing a black belt.

    the grappling game seems to much deaper then that of striking...
     
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    Gsoares2*** Banned Banned

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    Didnt mirko lose to a sambo practioner... what was his name again?

    Chuck wrestled, and does BJJ now... striking is his game but he also knows the other side of things.

    You cant compare a professional MMA athlete to this guys question. THose guys are so well versed in so many aspects of a fight, you cant really pin one style on them except MIXED martial arts.. key word there.
     
  12. Enron Exec.

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    I have trained hard Thai boxing for 2 years now all I do is just the drills bag work and little sparring. You do more damage to your brain when you sparr to much I think. I mainly do my Stand up to hold my own on my feet so I can Judo throw you on the ground and BJJ rape you on your back
     
  13. Enron Exec.

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    Oh you mean like How Randy Wrasled him like a girl the first time they fought ?
    or Fedor taking Mirko down and controlling him on the ground ?
    Or Arona who schoold Silva on the ground the win the MW Champ
    Or Shogun who omplata swept Arona for the GP final win ?
    The UFC WW champ who out wrestles and control his opponets ?
     
  14. TJS

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    Primarliy ecause grappling is Usually more fun for me.
    I do think having a good base in graplling is more important.

    That said If you overlook your standup you can be just as much a fish out of water if you cant take someone down.
     
  15. Dedicado

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    I thought you meant stand-up grappling at first, that woulda been a better theme, imo.

    I do both. But I enjoy grappling more. I love to box, don't get me wrong, but I find grappling to be hella fun too!

    Maybe when I move to a better town with more variety of sparring partners I will enjoy kickboxing more, I just wanna concentrate on Judo and BJJ untill I win some.
     
  16. Q mystic

    Q mystic Silver Belt

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    Do you plan on going mma?
     
  17. vanguard_anon

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    I do only grappling because I want to be good at one thing before I branch out into more. I started with grappling because my friend did BJJ and it sounded cool.
     
  18. TequillaSlammer

    TequillaSlammer Green Belt

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    Why do you do more stand up than grappling?
     
  19. jjmuaythaiguy

    jjmuaythaiguy Brown Belt

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    As the name implies, I do both muay thai and bjj.

    I train bjj 6 days a week at the Relson Gracie academy in Honolulu.

    I teach muay thai Monday and Wednesdays at one place. Private train people on Tuesdays in another. And then train some Relson Gracie guys on Saturdays after rolling.

    I appreciate striking as much as the grappling. I really enjoy teaching. The best thing is to trick someone into kicking my shins and elbows and watching their reaction. Hahaha.

    I appreciate jiu jitsu for its self defense and escapes while standing and of course the ground work. Relson Gracie just returned from Brazil and was showing us some moves it was awesome last night.

    I think right now, I like being a student in jiu jitsu. Although I assist teach the white belts with Relson. I'm really a beginner and student more than teacher there so it takes away all the responsibilities. Plus like some else said, less chances of damage to yourself and classmates but you can still choke them out without really hurting them or yourself physically.
     
  20. wildcard_seven

    wildcard_seven Purple Belt

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    Honestly, I don't like the emotion of standup. The whole atmosphere of even moderate sparring is of wanting to hurt/damage your opponent, and your opponent bascially also has thoughts of abusing your body the best he can.

    I don't think like this in grappling. I train to hurt nobody, and I don't feel the anger in grappling that I do in standup. I appreciate the beauty of the techniques in grappling, and I consider the pain that indeed goes with it just part of a demanding work out...somehow the acceptance of tapping and the ability to restrain submissions makes it just a game to me.

    And that is truly all I want it to be. I feel no need to defend my honor or my pride, and considering I'm generally polite and friendly, the likleyhood that I will ever get into a fight is very low. And though it still could happen I won't worry about it. Because anything could happen. I could be hit by a car, or fall down some stairs. But, I won't spend my days training to dodge cars, or breakfall down stairs.
     

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