People saying GSP is the 'goat' cuz he's clean have never watched Fedor fight or are from Canada

Discussion in 'The Lightweights' started by suhdude, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    13,967
    Likes Received:
    10,686
    See, this is what’s funny about gsp nuthuggers

    They’re quick at attacking other fighters n their records, but as soon as someone points out gsp shortcomings they turn into whiny pussies.

    They can dish it out, but can’t take it.

    If we’re talking about goat n look at everything, then guess what? We look at everything.

    You can’t bring up Anderson losing early in his career n later on when he was almost 40 or fedor losing at 34 after being almost perfect, but then ignore gsp losing in his prime (almost 26) to a 9-4 lw.

    You can’t act like 32 year old gsp was not in his prime, but then insist 34 year old fedor or 38 year old Anderson were.

    Also you can’t question the level of competition guys like fedor or Anderson faced, but then act gsp faced top competition. Most of his opponents were one dimensional or natural lw. That’s why big majority had sub .500 records when they reached the top.

    So yeah, don’t talk about ppl drawing lines in the sand or being unreasonable when you yourself are guilty of it
     
  2. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    13,967
    Likes Received:
    10,686
    So they just run away from the sport after a controversial sd win?

    Again at age 32

    Fedor = 31-1
    Gsp = 25-2

    Ppl were already making excuses for gsp how he was no longer in his “prime”, but somehow fedor still was?
     
  3. orca

    orca P4P #1 Machida fan

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2017
    Messages:
    2,001
    Likes Received:
    1,548
    Location:
    The philippines
    yep hendo is just better than fedor
    Thanks for agreeing.
     
  4. Loiosh

    Loiosh Detective Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2008
    Messages:
    43,388
    Likes Received:
    38,953
    Location:
    Charm City
    You're barking at me from behind that line in the sand.

    I never said any of those things. I never complained about Anderson or Fedor losing early or late in their careers, not once.

    You're pretending I act like an idiot so that you can act like one.

    You're also wrong about GSP's competition. Dead wrong.

    In any case, this is a waste of my time. You hate GSP. You aren't ever going to be rational or intelligent where he's concerned.
     
    lsa likes this.
  5. Rum

    Rum Champion of Champions

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    9,061
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Location:
    The Spirit World
    2003-2005 LHW was the division of kings.

    By 2008 those kings had fallen far enough that someone as limited as Forrest Griffin was able to take the belt, smashing Rua and Jackson along the way. Shortly afterward the much-depleted Bum Knees version of Rua was able to take it for himself.

    The fact someone as limited as Jones - no low-kick defence, no KO power, BJJ so limited he got his arm torn half off by a 185er - was able to dominate the division tells you all you need to know about how shallow that division was by the time he got to the upper echelon.
     
    NILLI likes this.
  6. NILLI

    NILLI Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2004
    Messages:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    Nobody was saying that GSP was not in his prime at that time. NOBODY! Don't try to make shit up it makes you look even stupider.
    Nice how you forget how GSP came back and won the MW title at the age of 36. He won the UFC belt one weightclass up where he had NEVER competed after a four years of inactivity.

    So how had Fedor faired when he turned 32 after he finally started fighting good competition? Racking up some humiliating fights and devastating losses. That is what happens when other fighters learn how to fight and you face tougher competition.
     
  7. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    13,967
    Likes Received:
    10,686
    Those guys were still good.

    That’s why “new breed” wasn’t able to take over like they did in ww.

    Look at ww from that same period n how many were still on top by 2008?

    You talk about griffin becoming the champ, but around same time 9-4 lw Serra becomes ww champ. So let’s not act only the cream of the crop would rise on top of ww division.

    Lhw was way more well rounded n way more competitive than ww at that point.

    Ww was dominated by Hughes (one dimensional wrestlers) n his only loss at his peak was lw penn (his only good victory at ww). Then gsp took over n he continue dominating mostly one dimensional division.

    Now they were better than Hughes n the competition he was facing during his title reign, but still not as good as lhw division.

    Fitch, kos were slight upgrade compared to Hughes, but they were still one dimensional wrestlers.

    Hardy, condit n Alves were one dimensional strikers with bad tdd.

    On the other hand lhw was very competitive until jones came n dominated everybody.

    Nobody was saying these guys were done before jones took over.

    It’s once he dominated them, that’s when narrative went from:

    He’s not been tested yet, once he faced elites of the division, he’ll get exposed

    To:

    He’s beating up fighters past their prime n natural mw
     
  8. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    13,967
    Likes Received:
    10,686
    N gsp ran away from the sport when he ran out of natural lw n one dimensional ww to beat n new more well rounded ww were coming in.

    Also lol bragging about cherrypicking one eyed 40 year old bisping who was also injured at that time.

    Why didn’t he honour his contract n defend the title vs no.1 contender?

    What did he do instead? Run away from the sport again n stated calling out lw?

    That’s your goat ladies n gentlemen
     
  9. NILLI

    NILLI Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2004
    Messages:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    So according to you he should have just kept on fighting if he had no interest in that? How fucking idiot are you really? Well at least Fedor still keeps on fighting and getting KTFO by LHW ufc rejects. Real GOAT material.
     
  10. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    13,967
    Likes Received:
    10,686
    Sure, sure

    That’s why you got triggered n responded to me responding to a delusional gsp nuthugger with your passive aggressive nonsense?

    Stop pretending to be some impartial fan here.
     
  11. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2008
    Messages:
    13,967
    Likes Received:
    10,686
    Yeah! What a loser!

    We know cherrypicking easier fights, ducking n retiring in your prime is the mark of true goat!
     
  12. Rum

    Rum Champion of Champions

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2015
    Messages:
    9,061
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Location:
    The Spirit World
    Bollocks, even before he won the belt Jon was favourite over legendary champion Rua precisely because the smart money had seen how far Rua had fallen, especially when coming back from a knee reconstruction.

    Busted Knees Rua was shithouse against Forrest and Coleman. Against anyone except shot Chuck and perfect stylistic matchup Lyoto he was very, very ordinary. You want to talk about one-dimensional strikers with cack TDD? The UFC version of Rua is exhibit A. Carlos Condit looked like Bruce Lee next to UFC Rua.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
  13. NILLI

    NILLI Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2004
    Messages:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    Finally you agree!
     
  14. Loiosh

    Loiosh Detective Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2008
    Messages:
    43,388
    Likes Received:
    38,953
    Location:
    Charm City
    OK, quote me saying those things.

    You claim I say them, so prove it.

    Not everyone is as biased as you.
     
    lsa likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.