People saying GSP is the 'goat' cuz he's clean have never watched Fedor fight or are from Canada

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  1. grimballer

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    That’s cause he cleaned the most competitive division in short time.

    On the other hand gsp beat up natural lw n one dimensional ww. Once he faced a well rounded ww who can wrestle n strike he got his ass kicked n ran away from the sport
     
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  2. Rum

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    In only Jon's 2nd defence the division was so shallow they had to feed him a guy on a 1-2 skid with no relevant wins in the previous 2 years

    While the likes of Aldo and GSP routinely defended against opponents with legitimate momentum in the division, right from the start of Jon's reign they struggled to find challengers who had a win streak of more than 2 ... in fact of Jon's first SIX title fights only 1 opponent had an active LHW win streak of more than 2

    LHW has always had "names" because casuals love spectacle, and bigger = more spectacle, but talent-wise it's been pitiful next to legit beast-rich divisions like FW, LW and WW
     
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    green giant Honor still means something................

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    GSP and Fedor are both goats. Jones is out of the conversation due to the freaken obvious ROIDS. Jeezo you dummies keep on with the jones talk even though he did roids, you are just too stupid to know you're stupid.
     
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    Prime Aniston was a New York 7.5
     
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    GSP is the best all a round MMA fighter so far.
     
  6. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

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    That’s cause all the top guys were fighting each other n giving each other losses.

    Lhw was easily the most competitive division at that time.

    Then jones came n make everybody look like amateurs.

    Compare that to ww division where a guy would go on a 7 fight win streak vs nobodies, then face gsp, get exposed n then become sub .500 fighter after facing top guys.

    Are we suppose to pretend that kos, Alves, condit, Hughes are better n more well rounded than shogun, machida, Evans n rampage?
     
  7. NILLI

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    I have followed this sport forever and can say that Fedor is not the goat. Hw is the shittiest division and goats do not get KTFO by 40 year old MW fighters when they are 34.
     
  8. grimballer

    grimballer Silver Belt

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    But goats tap to strikes in their prime vs 9-4 lw journeyman with 0 wins by ko/tko?
     
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    Fighting exclusively in the weakest division in the history of the sport doesn't make you GOAT.
     
  10. DeathByCaranos

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    Correct. I think people are also forgetting that "clean" GSP slinked away from the sport as soon as USADA was implemented into the UFC. Hendricks was making all sorts of accusations that George was using before their fight, and Hendricks would know. He was eating bowls of bull testicles every morning to up his T-levels.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. americanphenom

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    exactly !!!!!!
     
  12. ImCertainOfCirkunov

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    For me its always been Fedor and GSP. No need to try and pick between them, two once in a lifetime athletes.

    Jones is there as well. But i cannot and will not forget the juice. JJ is the Barry Bonds of MMA.

    One of, if not the best, of all time....with a big big asterisk next to his name.
     
  13. Mike K.O

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    Classic "HW are the best, because KO power" BS
    Let me tell you something, The Freckled Wonder was 170lbs when he won the HW title in boxing
    Stanley Ketchel (a MW) knocked the HW champ Jack Johnson down
    And here is a more recent example
     
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    HW is also the hardest division to be consistent at, because everyone can KO anyone at any time.
    Hence why the longest title-defense streak in the UFC at HW is 3.
     
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    Psh, "competitive" has jack shit to do with talent level. Fourth division peewee football can be competitive.

    Want to know why the smart money had Jonny Picograms as favourite in every single title fight, INCLUDING his very first one? Because everyone who knows anything about this game saw what busted Rua looked like the last time he'd come off knee surgery, when he embarrassed himself struggling to get past a 734 year-old Coleman who hadn't fought in 17 years. How about Jackson deep into his "Please don't wrestle me" phase of his career? Nah. Maybe little Machida as a short notice injury fill-in off a shitty 1-2 skid with losses to over-the-hill Jackson and busted Rua could make a run of it against Jon? Fuck off.

    LHW was so shallow when it came to top talent that of Jon's first SIX title fight opponents only Evans - a small LHW - could reasonably have been said to be somewhere near his best when he stepped into the cage with Jon.

    This bullshit UFC hype narrative of Jon's early "strength of schedule" is based on level of celebrity of opponents, not fighting ability.

    Thing about legit deep divisions like FW, LW and WW - unlike 205 - is that a whole bunch of the "nobodies" are beasts who are only "nobodies" because the division is so deep and there are even beastlier beasts above them.
     
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    Everybody is allowed to have their own opinion and mine is that GSP is the greatest welterweight but not the overall greatest
     
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    Lol
     
  18. Strijfy

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    not really sure what the argument is TBH
     
  19. Strijfy

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    youre making up your own history now
     
  20. ostlerrage

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    Jones is juiced to the gills. Was, is and always will be. End of story.
    Gsp and fedor are the two.
     
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