People really thought DC had a chance?

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  1. Boxingislife

    Boxingislife Banned Banned

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    To really trouble Jones, a fighter needs to equal Jones in size and reach, and have suprior boxing (like Gustafsson showed - Gustafsson also had far superior movement and speed to Jones)

    OR

    Have a brutish relentless pace to disrupt Jones comfort and long range game. Common sense in combat sports

    DC is a great fighter but its about styles and he offered none of the above.

    Anyone who truly ever followed DC's career knew DC was always more of a patient counter striker kind of fighter. Too many fell for the hype. There was no way he was gonna consistently have success against Jones. There were too many times where DC hesitated coming in (its naturaly not his style), or where DC would inch forward and then instinctly hop back at any sign of movement from Jones thus losing his ground. DC never commited and just got stale.

    Cain in that same situation doesnt hesitate. He will commit and implement. He can switch it up if he has too. Hes far more unpredictable. Cain is a natural bruiser who puts a hellish pace on opponents

    DC was always a great match up for Jones with his counter style at such a huge reach disadvantage. DC was forced into TRYING to be THE agressor and thats not really him. It worked only at times for him (which that actually gives more credit to Cain having way more success because Cain IS that fighter)

    Cain IS the one who always had the tools to destroy Jones the way Cormier "was supposed to"

    Even when Cain was still relatively unkown, Dana White and Joe Rogan were saying Cain would be the one to beat Jones. They knew it. Everyone at AKA also knows it


    Ive heard from people at AKA that Cain is the better more verstaile well rounded fighter to Cormier with FAR better transitions, better MMA level changes, better striking and far superior cardio and higher IQ (I can show you the sources from the people on twitter if you dont believe me). Cormier only had the straight wrestling over Cain, but again MMA wrestling is different, and Cain is better at mixing up his striking with his wrestling in MMA etc.

    Most who follow MMA closely knew Jones would pick DC apart and that many were going to be very disappointed. Its always been Cain who was seen as the legit antidote to Jones. Cain will be the hero and people will finally be happy when Cain knocks off Jones

    Cain would walk Jones down, walk through everything he has to offer with no hesitation, wrap up him and not quit until Jones is on his back and than pound him out (Cain has way better more relentless ground and pound than Cormier)

    Or Cain could dirty box Jones up

    Or Cain could kick with Jones

    Or Cain could slip inside and out of Jones' lead hand with no fear since he has the wrestling chops, and TATOO Jones with his much crisper more accurate technical boxing game

    PLUS Cain wont get tired like DC. Cain will keep pushing that hellish pace and give Jones a lot more unpredictable looks with his sneaky level changes/better ability to transition between striking and wrestling. Lets hope Cain recoveres from this injury soon because CAIN WILL DESTROY Jones with ease. Just completely have his way with Jones and make Jones look like a scrub.

    Im telling you, the ONLY fighters who legit pose huge problems to Jones are Gustafsson, Chris Weidman and Cain Velasquez. In fact Chris Weidman could probably destroy Jones too because Chris has the speed, the reach like Gus, AND the relentless pace like Cain (all though not to the same extent or with the same power and force as Cain) Cain is the one WHO i would really be 100% sure about destroying Jones with ease.
     
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  2. schwe30

    schwe30 Black Belt

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    And that's where you lost credibility. The rest, though I skimmed over it, is pointless.
     
  3. Maladroit

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    How much did you bet?
     
  4. Tweak896

    Tweak896 Brown Belt

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    You make this post after the fight. Hindsight is always 20/20 so this is a real petty move to make a thread breaking down the exact reasons why it wouldn't work AFTER you watched the fight.
     
  5. Scott Stapp

    Scott Stapp Blue Belt

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    He never beat anyone at LHW, and never fought for a title at HW in the UFC. Couldn't even finish a pudding-chinned Mir.
     
  6. Crytek

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    Well he makes a lot of good points and you refuse to quote any of it. That makes you look like the clueless one, speechless.

    I've always said myself that Cain is the kryptonite to Jon Jones, not DC. In fact, there were so many things that I seen DC do that Cain would have done a fuck load better and a shit load more effectively. It's not difficult to come to that conclusion if you've watched Cain's fights and match them up with how Jon Jones fights.

    DC is not Cain. Watch their fights side by side and you'll see the advantage Cain would have in a Jon Jones fight.
     
  7. chaoticmayhem

    chaoticmayhem Brown Belt

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    I thought DC had a slim chance to beat Jones if he could take him down and keep him down. That didn't happen. The rest is history.
     
  8. Limbo Pete

    Limbo Pete Fake History Man

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    Oh hindsight
     
  9. Blackened

    Blackened It is a new era! Double Yellow Card

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    He did have a chance. The reason he didn't win is Jon filled the holes in his game.

    DC would've beaten the Jon that fought Gustaffson or the Jon that fought Shogun
     
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    I was baffled by this talk as well, "DC will rag doll Jones!" Lol that was cute.
     
  11. Xaa

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    I think the guy's point was that the TS must have thought DC had a chance or he would have posted his thesis before seeing the outcome.

    TS must not have been sure.
     
  12. Shogun Rising

    Shogun Rising I am Shiva god of death

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    Cormier was highly competitive in four of the rounds.

    Jones found a way to win while Cormier faded badly.

    The world continues to turn.
     
  13. TwoFace

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    Whatever man DC had a great chance and proved it by winning a round and going the distance. DC is badass mofo...but the sad truth...somebody is always going to be better than you and JBJ proved that.
     
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    Slick_36 Bad Man from Borger, Texas

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    DC would have taken that if he had more cardio. He's 35 and has a history of trouble cutting weight, fighting a champion with experience in those two rounds. He had the skill and build to win, but the gas wasn't there. But, it's not like there are any other guys with those in common with him. So we probably won't see that kind of guy beat Jon.
     
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    "The Jon that fought Gustaffson" lol you're deluded kid, Alex made him look bad it was the same Jones, get over it.
     
  17. trane

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    Agreed TC I never thought DC would win.
     
  18. IBeLurkin

    IBeLurkin I see you've come to this battle of wits unarmed

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    You have got to be kidding me. Yeah, let's discredit one of Jones's best opponents minutes after he beat him because he didn't win.

    DC represented a huge test for Jones: someone who was supposed to be a much superior wrestler, who has tossed around heavyweights, who has never lost a round while fighting at a higher weight class and training with the HW champion of the world.

    And now, after Jones beats him, you're going to say it's not a good win?? One of Jones's biggest strengths is being the better wrestler. That wasn't the case here, and it is a huge thing because we all know Jones isn't an amazing striker.

    But he beat one of the best wrestlers mma has ever seen...who moved down from a higher weight class...and was undefeated while training with the HW champion.

    To overlook this win is absolutely ridiculous. Give respect where respect is due.

    You want to root against Jones, that's fine. But try not to be a delusional hater. It just makes MMA fans look bad.
     
  19. Nelly

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    You should have made this thread before the fight. You just look like a jackass right now.
     
  20. DyinHawaiian

    DyinHawaiian #FEELTHEBERN

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    Where you at Georges? Where you at motherfucker?!
    I wish I could be that confident TS.

    Of course the ''first round KO for DC'' and ''DC will ragdoll Jones'' comments made no sense, but Cormier fans had me worried that DC would beat Jones and, if not, put up a serious dogfight.

    DC put up a dogfight but was outclassed. DC is still a big threat.
     

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