Social People in Western countries with strict gun control don't murder as much as Americans

[Deleted member 159002]

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-vs-western-homicide-rates-2014-11

A trope from the pro-gun crowd is that if people want to commit murder, and guns they don't have easy access to guns, they'll just find other means. The fact that people in the US, where guns are so easy to obtain, murder at a much higher rate than high income countries with strict gun control, is strong evidence that pro-gun crowd's claim is bogus.

Guns make murder just about as easy as imaginable. A commonly used phrase to describe something very easy is "push of a button". All it takes to murder with a gun is a simple movement of the finger. There is extra effort involved in committing murder without a gun that militates against motivation.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

The fact that people in the US, where guns are so easy to obtain, murder at a much higher rate than high income countries with strict gun control, is strong evidence that pro-gun crowd's claim is bogus.

London murder rate overtakes New York's
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936

April 2nd 2018.

 

[Teppodama]

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-vs-western-homicide-rates-2014-11

A trope from the pro-gun crowd is that if people want to commit murder, and guns they don't have easy access to guns, they'll just find other means. The fact that people in the US, where guns are so easy to obtain, murder at a much higher rate than high income countries with strict gun control, is strong evidence that pro-gun crowd's claim is bogus.

Guns make murder just about as easy as imaginable. A commonly used phrase to describe something very easy is "push of a button". All it takes to murder with a gun is a simple movement of the finger. There is extra effort involved in committing murder without a gun that militates against motivation.

And now we're seeing an increase in edged weapon deaths in the UK. If the will is there the means will be found. How many cities in the US have to put up barriers specifically to keep people from using a vehicle as a means of homicide? What's the US statistics on acid related assaults?

 

[Lvnvmma]

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-vs-western-homicide-rates-2014-11

A trope from the pro-gun crowd is that if people want to commit murder, and guns they don't have easy access to guns, they'll just find other means. The fact that people in the US, where guns are so easy to obtain, murder at a much higher rate than high income countries with strict gun control, is strong evidence that pro-gun crowd's claim is bogus.

Guns make murder just about as easy as imaginable. A commonly used phrase to describe something very easy is "push of a button". All it takes to murder with a gun is a simple movement of the finger. There is extra effort involved in committing murder without a gun that militates against motivation.

White areas in the US are EXTRMELY safe and comparable to a lot of Western nations. Demographics has exponentially more to do with homicides than availability of firearms.

 

[bad seed]

London murder rate overtakes New York's
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936

April 2nd 2018.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43628494

tldr: while London's murder rate rose, it's total for 2018 was less than NYC's total from just January to June. And NYC is famously safe for a large city.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43628494

tldr: while London's murder rate rose, it's total for 2018 was less than NYC's total from just January to June. And NYC is famously safe for a large city.

The fact that people in the US, where guns are so easy to obtain, murder at a much higher rate than high income countries

London murder rate overtakes New York's
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936
April 2nd 2018.

Glad I could clear that up for you!

 

[lifelessheap]

If you avoid the ghettos and barrios in the US it is safe. Even with lots of guns around.

 

[bad seed]

Glad I could clear that up for you!

yes, the rate BRIEFLY overtook NYC for one month. The annual rate is still lower. Glad I could clear that up for you.

BTW both cities are about 8 million population.

 

[cincymma79]

Hmm Mexico banned guns and it is super safe
Wonder how they got these numbers

 

[Sketch]

White areas in the US are EXTRMELY safe and comparable to a lot of Western nations. Demographics has exponentially more to do with homicides than availability of firearms.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

yes, the rate BRIEFLY overtook NYC for one month. The annual rate is still lower. Glad I could clear that up for you.

BTW both cities are about 8 million population.

I don't know what you imagine you cleared up. The OP made a demonstrably false statement. I proved it wrong.

 

[Staph infection]

Brazil and Mexico are super safe thanks to their strict gun laws. Imagine if they had access to guns as easily as Americans do? They might turn into complete shitholes.

 

[Fugazy]

So what.

I mean really.

 

[Seaside]

White areas in the US are EXTRMELY safe and comparable to a lot of Western nations. Demographics has exponentially more to do with homicides than availability of firearms.

I love these threads. Because the OP is right but so is this post. But the two sides never want to meet half way and see that yeah there is truth on the right and left. Gun nuts are just ridiculous in any other country of the world and many countries allow guns for citizens.

 

[Greoric]

If you avoid the ghettos and barrios in the US it is safe. Even with lots of guns around.

Quick hide Vermont and New Hampshire!

 

[Greoric]

Brazil and Mexico are super safe thanks to their strict gun laws. Imagine if they had access to guns as easily as Americans do? They might turn into complete shitholes.

Ooph

 

[Phr3121]

People in countries with strict gun control don't murder as much as Americans.

Not true. Look at Brazil. Actually, look at Central and South America. Honduras scored pretty high - as expected. It used to be a very nice country about 20 years ago.

 

[Blood and Thunder]

London murder rate overtakes New York's
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936

April 2nd 2018.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/27/police-struggle-to-stop-flood-of-firearms-into-uk
Senior officer warns supply of guns has increased in the past year and will continue to do so in 2019

Criminals or terrorists will always find a way so it's absurd to punish the public.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

White areas in the US are EXTRMELY safe and comparable to a lot of Western nations. Demographics has exponentially more to do with homicides than availability of firearms.

"Inferior genes" = higher crime rate

 

[Greoric]

Inferior genes = higher crime rate

The genetics aren't inferior guy. It's just a maladaptation to the environment they find themselves in. Superiority/ inferiority is meaningless in an evolutionary/biological context.