People aren't giving Floyd a fair shake

He won, but he far from dominated imo. He got tagged several times and arguably lost a few rounds to Logan Paul. Let that sink in. Floyd made Canelo hit air and anything remotely resembling that version of him would have made Logan look absolutely foolish out there. How do you think Canelo vs Logan would go in a ring right now?

Logan Paul is a 0-1 fighter and Floyd is one of the greatest of all time and has made all time greats look like they didn't belong in the ring with him. The height, weight and reach difference shouldn't matter when levels are that far apart. Only explanation I can think of as I said is that Floyd has been on the decline for years and it caught up with him. Either way, it was a poor showing. It's not like Logan is even very talented. It had to happen at some point though.

My friend.. you need a lowkick.. in da fucking liver!

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I agrer with OP sounds like someone with actual boxing knowledge I can't say the some for loads on this forum
 
Floyd is probably the greatest of all time. the most marketable combat sports athlete of all time and clearly carried LP for the whole 8 rounds. He is the smartest guy in the room most of the time. Has made upwards of $50m by basically having a glorified sparring session without breaking a sweat.

He's not the best boxer ever sorry but he's not. He's the greatest of this gen which is different to goat
 
I’ll just use the Floyd nutthugger logic.

Canelo was 23 when he fought Floyd. People say Canelo was green, floydhuggers say how could canelo possibly be green when other fighters have done great things at 23 and are already at their prime? Therefore Canelo wasn’t green.

now they say the reason Floyd looked so bad against a boyband dude was because he is 44…

turn it around then, Foreman won title at 45, Hopkins at 46. Age isn’t an excuse, if it’s not for canelo then it isn’t for Floyd.

Father time is unbeaten and strikes at different times, one fighter might be finished at 37 like tyson and another can look still good like wladamir or Hopkins. Not sure what your point is. Giving a few examples of the rare occasions a few fighters over 40 and using it against mayweather considering most fighters post 40 are finished. You want proof just look at the history of the sport Einstein.
 
Unfortunately boxing has a very low skill ceiling compared to MMA hence why Conor (a mediocre MMA fighter 1-1 with nate and recently KTFO by poirier) beat the shit out of this generations boxing GOAT (Floyd) for 8 rounds even without being able to use kicks. Floyd is very lucky that it was a 12 round fight and Conor has poor conditioning.

Have a day off
 
The expectations werent set too high. He was fighting a youtuber ffs. And he wasnt even fighting the brother whos been training for a couple of years now and has had a couple of fights, no he fought the other brother who only had one fight which was also against a youtuber.

The skill disparity that boxers like to deify should have made this an easy affair, regardless of weight and age. At least thats what we’ve been told forever.

Even Tyson couldn't knock out other heavyweight his size or bigger because of constant holding & they didn't want to open up & fight trading punches we had seen this throughout the years.

So if Tyson couldn't knock out a C fighter who wouldn't fight, what makes you think Floyd could knock out a D fighter Heavyweight twice his size who was holes and wouldn't fight Floyd inside ?

Floyd couldn't even drop Conor who was actually fighting Floyd when Conor was bigger also then Floyd but your trying to fool everyone by claiming this moral street fighter victory just because Floyd couldn't stop a heavyweight who wouldn't fight a man 5-ft-7 that walks around at 150 pounds while Logan is a 6-ft-2 heavyweight strong College wrestler who walks around over 200 pounds easily.

If Logan fought a MMA UFC fighter & held wrestling for 3 rounds to survive you wouldn't be trashing that UFC fighter you would be trashing Logan & that's the truth, you would say well Logan was surviving holding, this happened when certain Boxers have stopped MMA fighters shocking everyone.



If Floyd fought MMA 3 rounds then was just holding running around surviving submissions you wouldn't trash that MMA fighter you would trash Floyd.
 
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Pffttt... Floyd had him out of there by the end of the 5th and then let up and carried Paul because it was an exhibition--barely threw any punches in the last 3 rounds.

Exhibition's are not real fights, they're fixed that's what exhibitions are.

It's almost a certainty that if both fighters would have lost most or all of their money if they stopped the other guy, that's how these exhibition contracts work.
 
According to certain posters Oscar & Shane both should've beaten Shaq easily then knocking him out or rocking him because of superior skills but size & strength matter that's why there's weight classes your asking to much from ordinary small old past prime fighters going against Heavyweight giants, when even UFC fighters probably couldn't KO or submit Shaq he's simply to big, also Shaq trains in MMA.
 
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Literally looks like Bob Sapp attacking Ernesto Hoost. Except add another 100+lbs of muscle and a mountain of PEDs onto Paul to equal Sapp.
 
Father time is unbeaten and strikes at different times, one fighter might be finished at 37 like tyson and another can look still good like wladamir or Hopkins. Not sure what your point is. Giving a few examples of the rare occasions a few fighters over 40 and using it against mayweather considering most fighters post 40 are finished. You want proof just look at the history of the sport Einstein.

exactly just like there are many examples of fighters being green in their 20’s and grow exponentially after their 30’s. Every case is different and that was exactly my point.
 
34.5lbs is apparently 50lbs now.

Hopkins was a world champion when he was 5 years older than Floyd is now, and he took more damage in his career than Floyd. Floyd was never a puncher but you don't need to be a puncher vs. a guy who was 0-1-1 vs. another youtuber (one that he outweighed as well). He should have peppered the body and stopped him from body shots and showed the audience that there's levels to this. Instead he lost 1-2 rounds and ate punches vs. a guy with a few months of training that was slower than molasses.

It's akin to someone like GSP fighting a 210lbs NHL player and not finishing him over 3 rounds. Really bad look for Mayweather, and makes MMA look much more of a bum sport with Askren getting slept with the first punch and Logan Paul easily surviving and smirking over 8 rounds when Conny gassed out harder than he did with all that combat sport experience.

And lol @ anyone thinking Mayweather carried shit, when he beat up little Tenshin the instant he got a bit annoyed with him.. you could tell Paul's antics were starting to affect him but he just didn't have it in him to do much about it. Bad look for Floyd all around, but kudos to Paul brothers showing that a little bit of athleticism coupled with a year or so of world class training and they are at a higher striking level than most MMA level striking guys who trained their whole life.
 
Hopkins was a world champion when he was 5 years older than Floyd is now, and he took more damage in his career than Floyd.

He wouldn't be a world champion if he was a WW. Speed is everything at those classes. Also, light weights age faster than HW's. HW's have better longevity because speed and cardio isn't as big of a factor.

It's akin to someone like GSP fighting a 210lbs NHL player and not finishing him over 3 rounds.

No, it's not. 1) Logan isn't someone straight out of another sport. He is someone who has been training in boxing for years. You can actually see Logan spar football players to see the difference between a boxer and a football player. Only stupid people or Floyd haters still claim Logan is just an Youtuber. 2) You have more ways to win a fight in MMA. More ways where your skill and experience can be used. Boxing is just punching. 3) It's actually more like GSP fighting a 240 pound guy. I'm not that confident he would beat a 240 pound guy with 3 years of consistent MMA training and some talent. And you saying otherwise is irrelevant, since you have no proof of it.

And lol @ anyone thinking Mayweather carried shit, when he beat up little Tenshin the instant he got a bit annoyed with him..

Lol at you thinking a small boxer way past his prime with fucked up hands is supposed to KO an HW. Lol at you thinking Logan not being able to KO Floyd, even though he landed, is something to be proud of. Lol at you thinking Logan did good after landing only 10% of his punches against a grandpa. You really think of Floyd as a superhero, if pushing an HW around at the age of 44 isn't enough to impress you. Shows how little you know about fighting.
 
Floyd won the fight quite easily, 6-2. Logan only landed at a 10% clip, but I understand the disappointment people have for not knocking Paul out.
 
geesh, that last clip...not that I could do any better, but for all of the training that Paul has supposedly done, it seems like he'd know how to punch. It looks like he's hitting Floyd with the palms of his gloves. If he'd brought that ferocity with proper punches, it may have reaped a better reward for him.



Agree 100%

That's some tough guy competition swangin…
 
He wouldn't be a world champion if he was a WW. Speed is everything at those classes. Also, light weights age faster than HW's. HW's have better longevity because speed and cardio isn't as big of a factor.



No, it's not. 1) Logan isn't someone straight out of another sport. He is someone who has been training in boxing for years. You can actually see Logan spar football players to see the difference between a boxer and a football player. Only stupid people or Floyd haters still claim Logan is just an Youtuber. 2) You have more ways to win a fight in MMA. More ways where your skill and experience can be used. Boxing is just punching. 3) It's actually more like GSP fighting a 240 pound guy. I'm not that confident he would beat a 240 pound guy with 3 years of consistent MMA training and some talent. And you saying otherwise is irrelevant, since you have no proof of it.



Lol at you thinking a small boxer way past his prime with fucked up hands is supposed to KO an HW. Lol at you thinking Logan not being able to KO Floyd, even though he landed, is something to be proud of. Lol at you thinking Logan did good after landing only 10% of his punches against a grandpa. You really think of Floyd as a superhero, if pushing an HW around at the age of 44 isn't enough to impress you. Shows how little you know about fighting.

Guy, you have clear math problems. First saying it's 50lbs when it's less than 35, thinking 190 is HW because Floyd said so to save face when it's in fact a small cruiser weight. Then saying the weight difference is the same as 240lbs when GSP is tops 180-185, hint that's 55-60 again. Shit I think Canelo gave up more in reach and frame fighting Callum Smith (what was that 10inch both reach and height?) and he made him look like a dummy. And that's an undefeated world champion.

While there are more ways to win in MMA, there's also more ways to stall and hold if you are bigger and have some grappling experience. GSP going to the dec in an exhibition he was actually trying to win with an NHL player with a few years of part time training would be pretty embarrassing, yes.

For an all time great to struggle, and frankly lose 1 or 2 rounds, with a guy with part time experience that spars boxing in his spare time is pretty embarrassing.
 
Guy, you have clear math problems. First saying it's 50lbs when it's less than 35, thinking 190 .

Wrong. Logan said he would be at least 200 pounds the night of the fight. Floyd was actually less than 155 pound the night of the fight, by his own admission. So yea, around 50 pounds. Probably even more. Do you honestly believe Logan was only 200 pounds in there? Compare them with UFC LHW's. He doesn't look smaller than any of them. And yes, GSP is around 185-190 pounds fight night. 50 pounds over him is 240.

While there are more ways to win in MMA, there's also more ways to stall and hold if you are bigger and have some grappling experience.

Yeah, and that has happened. Nobodies have done decent against proper martial artists in MMA fights because of weight difference. So, what's your point, exactly? Why are you fantasizing about a GSP fight that never happened to prove his superiority over Floyd?


For an all time great to struggle, and frankly lose 1 or 2 rounds, with a guy with part time experience that spars boxing in his spare time is pretty embarrassing.

It's more embarrassing to not be smart enough to understand that the only thing that really matters is how great you are, not how great you were. If Floyd wasn't great Logan would have knocked him out. It's the fact that he's great that allowed him to stay in there with such a big dude. Now, if you expected more from him, that's your problem. Your responsible for your own fantasies. Nobody has to supply them to you.
 
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