Pelosi throwing shade at AOC

Why the fuck are they political parties anyway, just create a conflict of interest instantly between party and constituents.

Who do you think has a better chance of winning an election:

-The person with no organization
-The person with a massive organization
 
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I know exactly what has been going on. Pelosi's comment about there only being five people in the congress who support AOC was egregious. And the CFAP attacks on Bernie are even worse.

But this glass of water quote was not a slight on AOC. Maybe you didn't listen to the audio. Pelosi was talking about ALL deep blue districts. She included her own.

I watched it, that was some meaningless self-deprecation to dodge the question.
 
The corporatist Democrats are shook AF!

They have been in full attack mode on the progressive wing of their party the past few weeks and its disgusting to behold.
The worst being their attacks on Ilhan Omar.

Maybe they are realizing how radical n clueless they really are n it leads to another republican sweep in 2020 if they do t see something about it?
 
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Says a glass of water with a "D" next to it could have won an election in her district or any overwhelmingly blue ones, warns her not to menace voters. Let the in fighting begin!


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.dai...kes-shot-AOC-says-glass-water-D-win-seat.html

A few thoughts on Nancy’s comments

1. She admits that the glass of water could win her own district as well.

2. She also says her problem with AOC’s “menacing” values is that it’s no way to win elections - not that she disagrees with the menacing sentiment themselves. In fact she positively asserts that she agrees with AOC’s values.

3. This is the defacto leader of the democrats in 2019. The worst of AOC and her ilk is completely mainstream to this party - some just know enough to hide it from you
 
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article201996539.html

She is a corporatist, her most valuable asset by a huge margin is her ability to raise money.
She opposes medicare for all, even though the majority of Americans support it.
She opposed the Iraq War but supported every expansion of the War on Terror by Obama, so its less likely she didn't support the war for political reasons rather than progressive one.
And lately she has been on public attack against the progressive wing of the party.
She repeats Republican talking points demonizing progressives and programs like MFA as "socialism".

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From the article:

Pelosi, 79, was speaking at the London School of Economics on Monday where she said that the Democratic Party must avoid the 'menace' of liberal policies pushed by rising political stars if it wants to beat President Donald Trump in the 2020 election.

Would love to see someone ask Nancy which of Hillary Clinton's policies was so radically left as to be "menacing". Because she didn't beat Trump in 2016.

But, sure, let's go back to the centrist, establishment policy well. Maybe this time it will get the dems to 270. :rolleyes:
She probably used common sense and looked around the country at how people are reacting to AOC her ideas and doesn't want a divided democratic party going into 2020.
 
Isn't Pelosi right though? If Dems really want to win in 2020, are the more moderate Democrats not the best option to win? Not only win, but maintain power and pass more and effective policy after being voted in?

I say this because I can picture someone like Biden (who I'm not even the biggest fan of) being able to work better with the Republican Party. I'd also picture him better able to work with his own party. You add someone very far left and I can picture it being incredibly more difficult, ultimately being less effective for all involved. Translate that to each level, and I think she is very accurate here.

Have you been following Biden's campaign?
@Sketch you got that link to Biden's campaign page :D

Biden's campaign is still on the runway and its wrapped around a telephone pole.
 
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article201996539.html

She is a corporatist, her most valuable asset by a huge margin is her ability to raise money.
She opposes medicare for all, even though the majority of Americans support it.
She opposed the Iraq War but supported every expansion of the War on Terror by Obama, so its less likely she didn't support the war for political reasons rather than progressive one.
And lately she has been on public attack against the progressive wing of the party.
She repeats Republican talking points demonizing progressives and programs like MFA as "socialism".

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The corporatist Democrats are shook AF!

They have been in full attack mode on the progressive wing of their party the past few weeks and its disgusting to behold.
The worst being their attacks on Ilhan Omar.
Full attack mode? I haven't seen that. What are you referring to?

Side note, the Democratic Socialists types hopefully realize that if they want a fighting chance to get anything they want done, which means passing bills (not just rhetoric), they're going to have to get support from the "corporatists" Dems. I completely understand that they want to get their agenda front and center but the tactics they're using have consequences. Abandon moderate (or as you like to smear them as corporatists) Dems and the Dem Socialist policy agenda is DOA. Shit, it's only possible if Dems win back the Senate and Presidency first. The infighting doesn't seem to make sense to me.
 
They're really undermining their only shot at winning, shows you where their priorities are.
That's no accident imo...

If things were to stay exactly the same, what exactly would these people lose? They have no incentive for anything to change. They just have to say things that sound good for us simple minded folk.
 
Yea I know, but that's besides the point. Biden could ramp it up overnight and all the jokes would be irrelevant. And again Biden isn't my first, second, or third choice, but I'm speaking pragmatically.

As great as Bernie is, look at the levels of infighting he has to battle. Think bigger picture, unless you are enjoying the Trump era. You take a moderate Dem with clout vs a far left Dem. What argument do you make that the far left Dem would not only defeat Trump, but would be able to work better to pass policy while in office?
He's also wrong about Biden's chances. If he enters, even with all the touchy feely shit, he would be the favorite to win the nomination (still the underdog vs the field, but the individual with the highest odds).
 
Nancy Pelosi does not want the face of the democratic party to be AOC.
She is trying to highlight (on more than one occassion) an idoelogical difference between the far left wing and the more middle ground dems.
 
well not surprising that women attack one another even in politics even when they’re apparently on the same side lol
 
Very true. There are many voters right now who are like "I hope Biden runs he's the man" when I'm talking to them about other candidates who I feel are better. He would definitely be ahead of the pack.
My "way too early" favorite is Mayor Pete. And I'd vote for a literal turd over Trump so obviously Biden over Trump is a very easy vote for me. I think you're right, he's not the best candidate, but he's good enough. And it's annoying to see people like AOC say things like "Biden presidential run doesn't excite me". Grow the fuck up.
 
Have you been following Biden's campaign?
@Sketch you got that link to Biden's campaign page :D

Biden's campaign is still on the runway and its wrapped around a telephone pole.

It's like joebiden.info
 
Isn't Pelosi right though? If Dems really want to win in 2020, are the more moderate Democrats not the best option to win? Not only win, but maintain power and pass more and effective policy after being voted in?

I say this because I can picture someone like Biden (who I'm not even the biggest fan of) being able to work better with the Republican Party. I'd also picture him better able to work with his own party. You add someone very far left and I can picture it being incredibly more difficult, ultimately being less effective for all involved. Translate that to each level, and I think she is very accurate here.
No, the best bet is for a sweeping victory, because the Republicans won't work with anyone.

We absolutely have to keep/expand control of the House, take the Senate, and the Presidency. Without the trifecta, nothing of consequence can be done. Republicans have proven unequivocally that they're going to act in bad faith no matter what. They need to be crushed.
 

Pelosi quite literally said the exact same thing about herselfin the exact same sentence as sheentions AOC do it for she is "throwing shade" it is on herself, which doesn't make sense.

"In reference to the November midterms, where the Democrats gained control of the House of Representatives, she picked up a glass and said: 'When we won this election, it wasn't in districts like mine or Alexandria's."

Maybe a warning regarding menacing but then I don't know why the OP mentioned the glass of water.
 
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