Pedro Sauer?

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Thoughts on him.... his students and reputation Im thinking about auditing a class taught by one of his black belts...
 
I know a Sauer black belt Sauer seems to be a marketing man like Lloyd Irvin.
 
I can't say enough good things about Prof. Sauer. He's super technical, humble, gracious, and he doesn't just hand out BBs. He's very well respected in the BJJ community, and the top guys have nothing but great things to say about him.
 
ILGrappler said:
nothing but great things to say about him.
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Seconded.

There is no marketing bull. I have never been pushed or even mildly solicited to buy any of his DVDs, etc. The only thing we had to buy was a patch for the association and that only costs a few bucks.
 
heard lots of good things about him from people that used to train with him
 
I am under an affiliate of Sauer's run by Sauer BB Eddie Camden. Not once have we ever had anything pushed on us. Nothing but positive re-enforcement here, as well.
 
My first BJJ back in the 90's was under a P.Sauer Blue Belt(Back when Blue Belts were hot shit). Heard nothing but good things about Sauer, and his style is pretty solid.
 
You can definitely get good training under Pedro Sauer. His style isn't the best for everyone though.

Pedro has more of an old school style that focuses heavily on learning by rote. A lot of people like to learn that way, but personally I prefer a more free form conceptual approach instead. Pedro also includes a significant Gracie self defense technique portion in his curriculum, which is another thing I don't really prefer in my training.

The way some of Pedro's affiliates do promotions rubs me the wrong way as well. There are significant stripe fees and belt fees associated with the promotions at some schools, and I personally don't agree with charging money for promotions to the extent that it is done at some of his affiliate schools.

That being said, some people really do well learning with Pedro's style. That is easy to see just from all of the positive reviews in this thread. I know a lot of good guys who train in Pedro's association, so it clearly works for some people.

I just wanted to give an idea of how Pedro contrasts with some other instructors in BJJ so you can see how his style fits in to the overall BJJ community.
 
Pedro's Black Belts are definitely legitimate, I would recommend his association to anyone interested in BJJ.
 
SRK said:
I am under an affiliate of Sauer's run by Sauer BB Eddie Camden. Not once have we ever had anything pushed on us. Nothing but positive re-enforcement here, as well.
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I'm at Tiger in Alpheretta, who is this? This is Joey.

I haven't met Pedro Sauer, but I can speak very highly of Eddie Camden.

edit: Our school doesn't have stripe fees or anything like that, for the record.
 
Personally, he is a great guy. Very gracious, very kind, always makes everyone feel welcome and like he has known them for a long time.

In terms of his teaching and his jiu-jitsu, I basically echo what Balto said. His style works very well for some people, and not very well for others. It is very much a->b->c->d, almost robotic. You screw up at c you go back to a and go over again..

Some people need to learn that way, and a lot of people do well like that. However for me, I can't stand that style. I think it stifles creativity and goes against the heart of bjj. For example, every pedro guy I have gone against always goes for the same 1,2,3 techniques from the guard. Some of them are very good at it, dont get me wrong. But its all the same - Start with the collar choke, try the armbar, try the sweep, etc.

Its not a bad sequence, but I don't think all of your students should be doing the same thing. Thats a bad sign imo.

and of course the issue of stripe and belt tests and fees. I think its inexcusable and simply a money making ploy. At the Pedro school I used to train at people had to buy the dvds to learn the techniques for the test. I have been corrected and people told me he doesnt do that anymore.

Still - charging a belt/stripe fee is nothing more than a money maker, and I disagree with that.
 
Pedro Affiliate student here, never charged anything other than my monthly dues.

The last seminar pedro was telling us to watch people & be open to any technique, but his instruction was all about the basics. He had the answer to all the questions.

Saw a video of him being challenged by a 270 mr utah or something like that, pedro was reported at less than 150 at the time. Guy was strong but pedro had him tapping before to long.
 
Thaiboxer10000 said:
Pedro Affiliate student here, never charged anything other than my monthly dues.

The last seminar pedro was telling us to watch people & be open to any technique, but his instruction was all about the basics. He had the answer to all the questions.

Saw a video of him being challenged by a 270 mr utah or something like that, pedro was reported at less than 150 at the time. Guy was strong but pedro had him tapping before to long.
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Haha I remember that video, pretty badass for sure.
 
Just wanted to add, we don't have any testing fees for stripes, belts, etc. either. Also, while the basics are emphasized (and appreciated), I personally have never had any instruction that was "a->b->c->d only and you're not allowed to waiver". For instance, I tend to play a lot of open guard, as does my instructor; whereas other high level guys at our school play a lot of closed guard and one or two work a lot of spider guard.
 
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